Duco on 4/1/2006 at 18:35
Thanks! For now, it's no need; it just works now! Really strange . . .
potterr on 10/1/2006 at 09:04
Cheers for that, I have added it to the wiki information as well.
deadman on 16/2/2006 at 20:01
I got an error when I tried installing Krellek's Labyrinth (using GL v 1.23):
Quote:
Adodc1
Syntax error (missing operator) in query expression 'zip_name = 'T3 Krellek's Labyrinth v1.1.zip".
Also getting
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Run-time error '-2147217900 (80040e14)':
Syntax error (missing operator) in query expression 'zip_name = 'T3 Krellek's Labyrinth v1.1.zip".
Help? I've used GL before my recent OS reinstall, so I'm wondering what's up. I chose Lite when I first opened GL, let it replace my exe so I could play FMs, let it move my save folder (after which it crashed the first time with some VB permission denied error). After it crashed the first time, it suggested to try going back to the default Thief 3 missions, then installing the FM again (it crashed).
Ugh...
potterr on 16/2/2006 at 21:09
Take the quote out of the zip file name, next version of GL handles this though.
The problem is that the query being done to the GL database is saying
Where zip_name = 'T3 Krellek's Labyrinth v1.1.zip', the quotes are used to encase the string T3 Krellek's Labyrinth v1.1.zip, however as there is a quote in the string itself, the database driver is seeing:
'T3 Krellek' as the string and then s Labyrinth v1.1.zip' as a load of garbage it doesn't understand.
deadman on 17/2/2006 at 03:59
Quote Posted by potterr
Take the quote out of the zip file name, next version of GL handles this though.
The problem is that the query being done to the GL database is saying
Where zip_name = 'T3 Krellek's Labyrinth v1.1.zip', the quotes are used to encase the string T3 Krellek's Labyrinth v1.1.zip, however as there is a quote in the string itself, the database driver is seeing:
'T3 Krellek' as the string and then s Labyrinth v1.1.zip' as a load of garbage it doesn't understand.
I renamed the file. Problem is, GL is still finding the string somewhere, and crashing whenever I try to run anything. I tried reinstalling GL, same. Uninstalling and deleting all extra files in the GL directory, then deleting any leftover registry entries, restarting computer, reinstalling GL, same. I even renamed the zip to remove the "1.1.zip" in case that caused any problems, but it's still stuck on the "Krellek's" thing. Is there a database somewhere I need to get at? Nagging the hell out of me, especially since I don't know how to manually install Thief 3 FMs.
Bah, I thought the cause might've been Krellek still being installed (Thief actually ran after GL giving me the error one time, but then crashed to desktop once the loading was done), so I overwrote all files using the "original_backup.zip", deleting the "Fan Mission Extras" folder as well. Same error *grr*
potterr on 17/2/2006 at 17:57
ok best thing to do is to start GL up with this command line string
/resetdb
e.g.
this will reset GLs database clearing anything in its FMs table, hopefully clearing the issue.
To do this click START then RUN then type CMD. then use CD ../ a couple of time to get to the root of C and then type CD prog* and press return, and then CD Garrett* and press return and then type GarrettLoader.exe /resetdb and press enter. once its started up, if you have GL set to open a specific games FM list on startup it will do so and re-populate the database for you. It should be ok from there.
deadman on 18/2/2006 at 00:36
Quote Posted by potterr
once its started up, if you have GL set to open a specific games FM list on startup it will do so and re-populate the database for you. It should be ok from there.
Same problem :( I remember hitting "reset" while in GL and thinking it was getting rid of the db, but each time I try to install anything (even original Thief 3; it's labeled as being ready to play, yet when I click it, only Install is available, so I think some Krellek files are still floating around), same damn error. I think I'll just have to reinstall Thief 3, and stay away from GL for a while if I have problems again. I understand you don't have any of these issues and can't build for every machine and OS (I'm running Windows Server 2003), but I haven't had any problems whatsoever with DarkLoader, so I'm wondering if there are some OS issues.
potterr on 18/2/2006 at 10:46
GL isn't supported on Windows 2003 server, but should work. The problems you may be having are down to a failed install. I would suggest re-installing T3 and try again. It would be down to extra files floating about.
Nextr version of GL (in beta testing now) has a Game Diagnostic tool that will allow you to create a reference file of your T3 install before you start and then again after you have any problems. That way you can use the tool to compare and look for missing or extra file or changed files.
Darkloader doesn't support T3, and due to T3 being quite a complex beast it is likely that some things may error occasionaly.
GL 1.31 should be out in a week or so, there is still some bugs to fix with things in it but I am hopeful to do them next week and have 1 final beta test.
deadman on 18/2/2006 at 18:48
Quote Posted by potterr
GL isn't supported on Windows 2003 server, but should work. The problems you may be having are down to a failed install. I would suggest re-installing T3 and try again. It would be down to extra files floating about.
Explains all the problems, then :laff:!
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Nextr version of GL (in beta testing now) has a Game Diagnostic tool that will allow you to create a reference file of your T3 install before you start and then again after you have any problems. That way you can use the tool to compare and look for missing or extra file or changed files.
Yeah, all I really wanted was for GL to make some backup of changed files or otherwise reference whatever files changed, so I could go back to the original install without uninstalling both GL and Thief 3. Then again, it's supposed to be able to go back to original missions, it just crashed every single time on my computer when I tried (giving the old Krellek problem, though I wiped out the database multiple times). It should definitely revert back to vanilla T3 if/when FM installation fails; gave me no end of headaches having a corrupt installation where I couldn't play FMs or go back to the original. Good thing I didn't do any heavy modding of the installation before screwing it up (ini tweaks, John P.'s models, etc.).
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Darkloader doesn't support T3, and due to T3 being quite a complex beast it is likely that some things may error occasionaly.
GL 1.31 should be out in a week or so, there is still some bugs to fix with things in it but I am hopeful to do them next week and have 1 final beta test.
Be that as it may (I know it isn't "fair" to say this), DarkLoader hardly gave me any problems, so I have a much higher opinion of that piece of software. Years of fun and stable FM installations.. Granted, you're still developing and improving GL, so I'm not saying "I'll never like/use GL," I'm just hoping the next version is a lot more stable on my OS. It actually crashes each time I initially install and open GL, after picking my Thief 3 installation and FM directory, giving me a run-time error 91 or 97, I believe. I'm almost cringing in anticipation of it crashing :p
