sepsis on 19/12/2005 at 08:47
dammit, man... or men... you kids and your genders lol
anyway, dammit!!!! i knew i was uber-n00b and now you do too because i have no fucking idea what you just said. seriously, though, how did you learn all that? school or self-taught? because all i know i have mostly taught myself (aka i know very little) and the rest is from my parents (who used to own a small hardware and software repair business before the likes of gateway and dell and best buy (yeah, parentheses within parentheses: who the hell thought up best buy's motherfucking geek squad. they take the word geek and make it into something dirty... in fact, i feel liek i should be getting the rubbing alcohol, qtip, and tweezers out right now to clean my keyboard) took them out. cheaper to buy a new comp than repair one if you had nothing but your gay-asses buddy lists on it). grr. but, hey, thats capitalism with a not so healthy dose of communism, but, liek msg, it tastes a little better (edit:: it makes the meat more tender, it doesnt affect the taste, does it? idk, but its incredibly important!!) to most, no?
oh yeah... back to subject.
point in making, i dont know how to teach myself anything more than the basic crap i know now. i feel so inadequate. liek my make-believe penis is only two inches (i know its not a classy joke, none of mine are, but its late and i feel liek it! bitches : P. death to the smilies.).
oh, and, as little as i know, even i hate how xp holds your hand while it walks you through the park, avoiding anything remotely informative or customizable, such as the seperate drinking fountains mere feet from teh playground. and the default search setting does not search system/hidden files. wtf?!
therefore, all you amateur programmers and designers and uber-users, probs from a liddle girl who is now going to watch conan reruns and play the late night (with conan o'brien) drinking game, lol. maybe then ill try playing with teh t3 editor so i can see my own mission in teh pot's new(ish) prog.
--wtf
nomad of the pacific on 19/12/2005 at 12:08
Jump on in, sepsis! You can't be more of a noob than I. I was lucky enough to be checking out the forum when the editor was released, so I got in on the ground floor and managed to make a small contribution or two before these genius's blew me away and left me choking on their dust, but I'm still plugging away at it. The good thing is that now I have their contributions to help me along! :D Anyhow, the more, the merrier! Welcome aboard!
potterr on 19/12/2005 at 22:14
sepsis, self taught mostly, some (VB,C#,C++,ASP,Cold Fusion,XML,SQL Server) courses paid for by work but most of which I already knew or I would never really use again.
One of the problems most people have with learning about computers, programming, etc is that people are terrified about breaking the PC. Best thing to do is have an old PC, take it appart, put it back together and realise how simple it is (although put it back together roughly or wrong and swear a lot :laff: ). Once you know whats inside the box, using it is less scary. You can write VB script in notepad if you want (just a new text file with the .txt extention changed to .vbs), look up some references on the web and learn a bit about it..same with some other languages...you can do them for free easily.
Anyway, back to the topic in hand...any more bugs found in GL not on the wiki?
...anyone?
nomad of the pacific on 19/12/2005 at 22:51
Hmm... Maybe the wrong forum, but this is the only one I read right now. Anyhow, I can see all my Thief 1 & 2 FMs listed, but I am not given the opportunity to install or play them. The buttons don't turn green. The FM data shows up in the bottom screen alright and I do get a green Play button for the OMs. Thief 3 works fine. Any ideas?
potterr on 20/12/2005 at 17:38
can you send me your GarrettLoader.ini (or post the contents here in a code tab). GL would only enable the install button if your T1/2 game paths were set, chances are they are not correct for some reason (GL would allow you to see the FMs though as it allows management of FMs without the game installed).
nomad of the pacific on 20/12/2005 at 23:15
Code:
[T1]
C:\Thief\GarrettLoader\FMs\Thief1*#*
[TG]
[T2]
C:\Thief\GarrettLoader\FMs\Thief2*#*
[T3]
C:\Thief\GarrettLoader\FMs\Thief3*#*
[TOTHER]
[T1GAME]
C:\Thief\Thief
[TGGAME]
[T2GAME]
C:\Thief\Thief2
[T3GAME]
C:\Thief\Thief3\System
[T3SAVES]
C:\Thief\Thief3Ed\\saves
[T1EDITOR]
[TGEDITOR]
[T2EDITOR]
C:\Thief\Thief2
[T3EDITOR]
C:\Thief\Thief3Ed\System
[DMGAME]
[DM]
[DMEDITOR]
[DMODGAME]
[DMOD]
[DMOD_INSTALLED]
False
[DMODEDITOR]
[DOWNLOADS]
[T2XGAME]
[T2X]
[SS2GAME]
[SS2]
[SS2EDITOR]
[LANGUAGE]
ENGLISH
[LANGUAGECODE]
[MAIN_TOOLBAR]
0
[RECORD_SQL]
False
potterr on 20/12/2005 at 23:45
Couple of things I notice here:
[T3SAVES]
C:\Thief\Thief3Ed\\saves
This appears to be pointing to your T3ed save games path for your saves. GL will use the save games from there which could cause a bit of confusion (caused by most likely running thief3loader to launch the editor before configuring GL).
Your paths appear to be correctly set up though. I will try and compile a new version of GL tommorrow and send it off to you, it has a lot more logging and should indicate where the issue lies.
nomad of the pacific on 21/12/2005 at 12:26
Thanks, potterr. I was rather curious why my save folder was in the editor path, too, but since T3 seems to be working okay, I let it stay.
Duco on 4/1/2006 at 17:07
Oh well. I also have a problem. I installed Thief3 (already patched), installed GL all-in-one. Then after selecting T3Main.exe in GL it crashed. Ok, then selected the whole thing again, I think I managed to select and copy the saves to the Thief map (you know, where it asks you). Then I ran The Walk; it throws me direct to the default loading screen, and after some time it crashes without any warning. And the problem is, I load the OM back, and my saves are gone!
This is the SQL_Log:
Code:
1/4/2006 4:04:27 PM--UPDATE table_scores SET installed = 0 WHERE zip_name = ''
1/4/2006 4:04:49 PM--UPDATE table_scores SET installed = 1 WHERE zip_name = 'TheWalk.zip'
1/4/2006 4:04:50 PM--UPDATE table_scores SET installed = 1 where zip_name = 'TheWalk.zip'
1/4/2006 4:04:56 PM--UPDATE table_recent SET installed_date = now() where rank = 1
1/4/2006 4:04:56 PM--UPDATE table_scores SET last_played = now() WHERE zip_name = 'TheWalk.zip'
Thanks in advance and if this has been answered before, sorry, just give me the link.
potterr on 4/1/2006 at 18:28
The crash is due to a bug that is fixed in the next version. The save games should still be in a zip file called saves_original.zip in a folder called allsaves in yoru thief deadly shadows game folder (should have been restored automatically unless it crashed due to a rights permission found in windows XP Service Pack 2, which I am currently working on a way round).
Could you post the contents of your garrettloader.ini file as that helps more with determining if your setup is correct. Also an additional tool in the next version of GL will help to determine if your T3 install is correctly setup by allowing comparrisons....which reminds me I must finish it....
