Starker on 2/2/2021 at 18:04
I think it's safe to assume that until there actually is a moratorium announced on this, the spice will continue to flow.
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
Starker and Pyrian: don't you see the differences? The Democrats are not as red as the Republicans. They are clearly green.
@Starker, I think we don't really have different opinions. Our differences are mostly that you don't want to put the same label on the Democrats as we put on the Republicans. I get why. Yes, they are different. But in my eyes the fact that the Democrats are more moderate capitalists than the Republicans, doesn't make them no capitalists anymore. The fact that some Democrats have more progressive ideas (Bernie, AOC, etc), does't change the fact that Democratic majority and Democratic Presidents have been relatively conservative. Relative to the rest of the world.
Maybe I should't have used the word "ultra".
Again, Biden has now the power to make changes. Let's see what he does. Action speaks louder than words. I truly hope Biden will prove me wrong.
I'm not sure what you're getting at now. At no point have I claimed the Democrats are blue or green or not capitalists. The opposite, in fact. Multiple times. But, you're saying that they are extremely red, extremely conservative, extreme capitalists, etc., which I simply don't agree with. Not even a majority of them are at the extreme end of right-wing politics. As I said, in my view the party as a whole is centre right, with a significant progressive wing. As in, significantly more to the centre than Republicans. And their conservative wing that can actually be compared with Republicans, the Blue Dog Democrats, is very much in the minority.
As for Biden's power to make changes, I think you might be underestimating what can be achieved by executive order. And 50 senators in the Senate is a hell of a tightrope to walk in a party as diverse as the Democrats. Say what you want about McConnell, he is a master at what he does. And as shrewd a politician as Schumer is, he's no McConnell.
