Amorpheus on 2/12/2003 at 14:48

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Those seem rather meaningless to me. What stops people from voting it crap just because they can and have been let down by the demo?

Epos Nix on 2/12/2003 at 17:21

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There is less to fuck up with Thief 3.

Freddo on 2/12/2003 at 17:35

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How many of those have actually played the full game and not only the demo?

Besides, they gave the first Deus Ex 8.2. Is the difference between 8.0 and 8.2 really that great?

Tej on 3/12/2003 at 11:02

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Let's just face it, we've all been expecting Deux Ex with new candy, improved and better, and we've been disappointed with the fact that the game has been built a new, and not so much on the basis of the previous game. We basically hate the sequel because we liked the original a lot.

However, we must take into account that this people have seen the whole picture, played the whole game. On the other hand, we've only seen the small (and, what we feel, not so good) part of it. Perhaps, in the long run, it works anyway.

Of course, the findings about non-rewarding stealth style cannot be too impressive. But, when I come to think of it, it wasn't much rewarded even in the original. NOLF2, for instance, boasted a visibility icon, theoretically offering the stealth gameplay. But only theoretically. In practice, it meant a lot of frustration, deaths and reloads. The only game where stealth really works is Thief. There are, of course, other gripes, but again, they might not be that apparent in the overall joy in the storyline. So maybe, just maybe, the reviewers liked the game for the very same reason most of us have so far been disappointed: because it's a Deux Ex game.

Garrett's Mind on 4/12/2003 at 16:50

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I haven't played the full game, only the demo, but from what I can tell from that experience and facts conveyed here about the final version, Ion has made all the wrong choices. I cannot fathom why all the reviewers are praising it as much as they do. In all fairness it seems to me that it should be slaughtered.
I for one am not buying it, and will probably spend a good part of the upcoming months praying to the god I don't believe in that they won't screw up my beloved Thief the same way. Dammit! I spent years looking forward to this. I know. Get a life. Blah blah. But how could they do this to us, and how the hell can they expect to increase sales by removing almost everything that was good about the original, apart from freedom of choice? Spector must have gone insane to let his team get away with this.