Fat Thief on 2/12/2003 at 02:39
QUOTES ARE FROM GAMESPOT REVIEW:
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The fact is, much like in the original Deus Ex, the stealth elements aren't well implemented in Invisible War. There's no onscreen indicator that lets you know whether or not you're hidden from your enemies' sight, so attempting to sneak past a bunch of guards can become a slow and tedious process--especially since the obvious, easier alternative is to simply take them out. You'll pretty much always be working alone in Invisible War, but the enemy odds are never stacked too high against you, and the enemies themselves simply aren't very dangerous, due mostly to the poor AI.
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At the default difficulty, most of the combat in Invisible War is a breeze--assuming that you have some prior experience playing first-person action games
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your enemies will all merely rush right at you like fools, or will hover over the dead bodies of their comrades
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there are some nonlethal combat options, but there's no obvious in-game difference between knocking an enemy out and killing him
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so there's really no mechanism in place to encourage you to do things the hard way (or to reward you for doing so).
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should take just 10 to 15 hours.
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just crawling through all the conveniently placed, human-sized vent shafts
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the hacking in Invisible War is a bland, skill-free affair that simply involves staring at a terminal for a few moments while a "hack" meter fills up.
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It doesn't help that the individual "levels" are all quite small and separated by noticeably long loading times.
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this could have been a much more immersive gaming experience overall.
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he superficial characters and the inconsistency of the game's presentation also diminish some of the game's appeal.
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the physics are goofier than they are believable, as most of the moveable objects in the game seem to lack any real mass--as though everything in this grim future was inflatable or made of Styrofoam.
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characters in Invisible War don't act right even when they're dead. They fall to the ground in lifeless, contorted heaps, which can then be picked up and flung around effortlessly.
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Also, the realistic lighting and physics take what seems to be a serious toll on the game's frame rate.
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Overall, you'll have to work fairly hard to suspend your disbelief while playing this game. For just about every little detail it successfully and impressively pulls off, there's some noticeable blemish that you'll need to try to ignore.
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The skill-building system of the original game, which gave you real incentive for solving quests, is completely gone, and this is somewhat disappointing.
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This is an open-ended-sounding system, but, in practice, the decisions about which upgrades to get will probably seem pretty obvious to you.
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For some reason, there's only one ammo type in Invisible War,
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Also, for some reason, weapons never need to be reloaded, so you either have ammo for another shot or you don't.
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The weapons themselves at least have a solid feel to them, though in practice, most all of them seem completely underpowered, save for that sniper rifle.
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don't expect a silky smooth frame rate from either the PC or the Xbox versions of the game
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you'd need a high-end PC to get all of that to run reasonably well
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a single-player-only adventure that can be finished without much trouble in a weekend
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Unfortunately, Invisible War does make a few missteps,
There is no way in hell that all of the above amounts to a rating of 8.0
Muzman on 2/12/2003 at 02:51
Criticisms that are quite similar to the litany of faults found with Deus Ex 1, and that got 9s/90%s
Fat Thief on 2/12/2003 at 03:11
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Originally posted by Muzman Criticisms that are quite similar to the litany of faults found with Deus Ex 1, and that got 9s/90%s
A lot of people have been saying that, but will have to say that although you can say that they both had AI problems, for example, which is worse?
Dont you think that by the second time through that there shouldn't be AI problems or at least not the same ones?
Not to mention that the first game didn't have uni ammo and no reload issues among many other IW specific issues. And the first was definitley not "10 - 15" hours long.
screwed on 2/12/2003 at 03:13
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Originally posted by Fat Thief There is no way in hell that all of the above amounts to a rating of 8.0
I agree. This review reads like a 6.5 game. The reason, I believe, is because the GAMEPLAY rating weights as high as the SOUND and GRAPHICS. Very stupid. Gameplay should be the most heavily weighted score by far. After reading this review, I'm looking forward to playing this game as much as my next case of the runs. :(
ESpark on 2/12/2003 at 03:15
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There is no way in hell that all of the above amounts to a rating of 8.0
*clicks on Internet Translator*
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I am deeply pissed off that a game I hoped would score poorly (so that my complaints about the game would actually be valid) scored well in yet
another review.
Oh, and a (
http://www.gamesdomain.co.uk/gdreview/zones/reviews/pc/dec03/deus_ex.html) 4 out of 5 from Gamesdomain.
What'll you do when not only the inevitable sales, but more high-scored reviews, completely negate the validity of your outrage?
Fat Thief on 2/12/2003 at 03:29
Fact of life:
- Fanboys will use the inflated ratings to praise and defend DX:IW
- People with common sense will actually read the review and realize that the rating does not agree with the review and that the game is a big stinker.
Muzman on 2/12/2003 at 03:32
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Originally posted by Fat Thief Dont you think that by the second time through that there shouldn't be AI problems or at least not the same ones?
Kinda. I've started to wonder if my expectations for the leaps of progress games should be making isn't a little too high; with H-L2 and now DX2 looking like coming in somewhat lower than I'd hoped.
The game I think we're all dreaming of is further off than we think. At least until STALKER comes out. Maybe.
Anyway, that's not really the point. It's not how game reviewing works generally (although I agree the ratings are frequently counter intuitive to the comments). Whether Deus Ex2 could have or should have or was hoped to have been better isn't what's being assessed here.
ESpark on 2/12/2003 at 05:18
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...the game is a big stinker. Based on the postitive reviews so far, your opinion is invalid and incorrect.
Gingerbread Man on 2/12/2003 at 05:26
Based on the reviews, Milli Vanilli were a HIT SENSATION and Dido will be THE NEXT HUGE STAR and The Matrix: Revolutions was THE NUMBER ONE THRILL RIDE GRIP YOUR BALLS HELLO YOU'LL NEVER SEE A MOVIE AS CLEVER AND DEEP AS THIS ONE AGAIN.
Please don't make me demonstrate why, compared to I, Catman is a lovable furry gentleman with a very high tolerance for bullshit.
:)
