DDL on 17/12/2009 at 15:47
It's pretty common in human politics to do next to fucking nothing about a problem until the shit has actually hit the fan. That so far few nations have done anything significant to combat emisions should come as no surprise to anyone, sadly.
You can replace climate scientists with military advisors, or flood planners, or epidemiologists, or whatever, and you see this basic scenario over and over again:
"Shit's gonna hit the fan."
"Are you sure?"
"Almost certain, yes."
"But not 100%, I take it? This would, after all, be unpopular with voters."
...nothing is done..
"Shit's definitely gonna hit the fan."
"Certain this time?"
"As certain as we can be."
"Still not 100%, then. Well, it seems foolish to commit that much money when we're not sure, so we'll take it into consideration."
...nothing is done..shit hits fan..rocks fall, people die, etc..
"*sigh* told you.."
"Whatever. Quick, aides! Blame everything on some scapegoat and work on repairing my public image as a hero in times of disaster!"
So one has to hope this is going to be one of those rare ocasions where we actually get shit sorted before everything is fucked. We can hope, right?
Fragony on 17/12/2009 at 16:24
The only irony to be found there is the fact nothing is happening
Muzman on 17/12/2009 at 16:59
How would you know?
Stitch on 17/12/2009 at 17:22
Fragony's unquestioning dedication to his ignorance is actually rather impressive in its own right. It takes a certain brand of steel to argue for the better part of 19 pages that the earth is flat because it just is.
Renzatic on 17/12/2009 at 17:30
Quote Posted by DDL
It's pretty common in human politics...
You can just say politics there, DDL. After all, there aren't any other intelligent beings out there we can compare and contrast our political system against. It makes placing "human" in front it kind of redundant.
Matthew on 17/12/2009 at 17:52
DDL is inadvertently revealing his true, robotic nature.
DDL on 17/12/2009 at 18:07
:(
Though would you allow that many social species exhibit at least a semblance of a political system, to a greater or lesser extent*? Many of which end up being both far simpler and far less retarded than your..er..our own.
*not just talking "I'm bigger so we do what I say", though this is admittedly common. Nature has evolved a ton of strategies for getting a big bunch of organisms to come to a consensus, quickly and efficiently. It's just that humans evolved in smallish social groups, and are now having to deal with establishing consensus states in HUGE social groups. And are failing.
Renzatic on 17/12/2009 at 18:35
All I knows is dogs and cats don't vote.
Master Villain on 17/12/2009 at 21:26
I vote based on what my cat tells me. That's as good as giving them the vote anyway.
Chade on 17/12/2009 at 23:00
Quote Posted by CCCToad
I also definitely agree with one point that article makes: most of the current climate efforts are simply political ... Currently, Nothing good is coming out of the whole affair whether or not you believe in global warming. We are getting all the inconvenience of increased government regulation and taxation without the kind of drastic reductions needed to forestall any of the more dire climate change models.
what? :confused:
The article does not say that climate change efforts are simply political, although it does mention political difficulties. And I am not aware of any currently active American taxes created with the intent of stopping climate change, but I am not an American, so maybe you can enlighten me.
