Fragony on 15/12/2009 at 01:40
It's a good thing I have 5 fingers, at least I can equal the odds that way.
Chade on 15/12/2009 at 02:03
Yeah, come on guys, lets be reasonable. Scientists are nothing but a bunch of superstitious peasants anyway.
Muzman on 15/12/2009 at 02:10
Goodwife Fragony does however look fetching in a bonnet. I think that's the real parallel.
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http://xkcd.com/675/) This xkcd is going to get linked a lot around this debate.
Fragony on 15/12/2009 at 04:27
That is funny but it doesn't fly here, we aren't talking about the scientific proces towards an outcome, we are dealing with making an already decided upon outcome look scientific. Don't you agree.
Stitch on 15/12/2009 at 04:33
yeah ttlg don't you agree
Fragony on 15/12/2009 at 05:13
Quote Posted by Stitch
yeah ttlg don't you agree
Consensus in action, we have a disagreement on what you believe to be a fact, and you are calling for social exclusion when there is doubt.
Muzman on 15/12/2009 at 06:39
Quote Posted by Fragony
That is funny but it doesn't fly here, we aren't talking about the scientific proces towards an outcome, we are dealing with making an already decided upon outcome look scientific. Don't you agree.
This is true. Denialists aren't individuals on the net refuting relativity. They are intent on making their decided upon outcome look scientific (by systematically misrepresenting existing science).
Fragony on 15/12/2009 at 07:34
Quote Posted by Muzman
This is true. Denialists aren't individuals on the net refuting relativity. They are intent on making their decided upon outcome look scientific (by systematically misrepresenting existing science).
There we go again, the reversed argument. That existing science doesn't really exist anymore because it has lost all credibility since the data has been manipulated, whatever you do with it, besides knowing it's a scam, is simply not going to do.
Muzman on 15/12/2009 at 07:52
There is no evidence that the data has been manipulated. There's plenty of accusations, but they are easily refuted (and we've seen that many times already).
As I said; no interest in arguing the science, only misrepresenting it (and when that doesn't work, poisoning the well)
Fragony on 15/12/2009 at 08:07
Quote Posted by Muzman
As I said; no interest in arguing the science
Why not? We are still in the situation where temperatures aren't rising despite a rise of CO2, maybe you are wasting time being absolutely terrified of CO2, maybe it was something else all the time and you missed it and now we are all fucked.
If you believe in all that, us being fucked and all.
