st.patrick on 7/12/2009 at 10:47
and the snowball keeps rollin'
Aerothorn on 7/12/2009 at 11:32
I know CCCToad registered in 2002, but I honestly have no memory of him till this year. Is he a new frequent poster or was I just missing the boat?
ceebs on 7/12/2009 at 12:21
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Skeptic Arguments and What the Science Says
Here is a summary of what the science says on each skeptic argument. You can also view arguments sorted by popularity or taxonomy.
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Fragony on 7/12/2009 at 13:04
Why exactly should I put any believe into anything that is there, where do they get their data from, where is peer review, and who is doing it. 4 simple questions that need to be asked nowadays.
Muzman on 7/12/2009 at 13:38
You could probably find out fairly easily and discredit them in false and arbitrary ways all by yourself.
Remember, it doesn't matter if CRU or NASA are right or wrong about anything. Only that they OMG! got hacked into! Or are slower than instant with FOI claims.
Denailism is a strange kind of ARG for people who think The Da Vinci Code hung together too logically.
Morte on 7/12/2009 at 13:38
Quote Posted by Fragony
Why exactly should I put any believe into anything that is there, where do they get their data from, where is peer review, and who is doing it. 4 simple questions that need to be asked nowadays.
1. Evaluate the argument and data presented, and draw your own conclusions.
2-4. Click on the "more" link and you will get a more indepth answer, along with papers the arguments are based on. From this, with a bit of digging, you can find out where they were published, and who reviewed them.
If you had any critical faculties you would already be doing this, but once again you demonstrate your basic inability to engage in anything but rote denial.
SubJeff on 7/12/2009 at 14:12
Quote Posted by Aerothorn
I know CCCToad... ...Is he a new frequent poster or was I just missing the boat?
Newly into the frequencies. Always used to hang on the fringes occasionally posting totally incongruous comments/right wing slanted mini-rants. No change there then! boom tish!
Fragony on 7/12/2009 at 14:13
Quote Posted by Morte
your basic inability to engage in anything but rote denial.
Oh mine, I see. Two weeks ago that would probably have been enough just because of how amazingly huge some things can be, but things have changed a bit, somewhat more in favour in my position and more is going to come out so just grab a sixpack and enjoy the show.
belboz on 7/12/2009 at 14:41
According to reports the point of no return was 3 years ago, so this copenhagen treaty will just slow down the process a bit if its really happening, so in 10 years time either 1/2 the world now standing on land will be underwater, or we'll all be dead, if we are in the middle of an ice age in 10 years time then the maya prediction of the end of the world has happened as their prediction is the world will end in fire and ice.
There's also the fact that the magnetic north south poles are due to switch and the global warming effects could actually be being triggered by the magnetic poles geting close to the point of no return where they will suddenly switch, as the earths magnetic field also effects the worlds weather and animal migration, as for animal migration its probably the reason why animals like whale pods are ending up on beaches because the magnetic forces they are following are sending them to the wrong place and not actually something to do with global warming like it has be claimed to be the cause of some of these mass extinctions.
In the 80's vegitarians around the world were claiming that cow farts were causing the world to heat up, that was methane and not co2, just so they could save the cows from being eaten, but if we stopped eating cows then the cows would suffer a mass extinction as we wouldn't need the cows.
So now we have green parties around the world claiming that co2 causes the world to heat up, because they want use to go back to what it was like before the industrial revolution, then we get that horse and cow farting problem again. Its like electric cars the batteries in these cars produce more co2 in there manufacture and recharging, than a normal car that uses petrol, so which is greener. Well look at another way, how many people ditched cathod raytubes for an lcd monitor, lcd monitors produces 4x as much co2 in there manufacturing than the cathod raytubes versions do.
Fragony on 7/12/2009 at 15:43
Even if the poles and all the glaciers on the planet completely melt they won't raise sea levels with more than a few centimeters. How do you see that happening exactly, earth is 2/3 ocean, it's a rediculous amount of water to raise it just by 1 centimer, a few poles, little bit of ice. No way.
