Skaruts on 2/12/2009 at 23:38

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Remember that we produce mass smokes, mas carbon oxide and dioxide from coal factories and oil extrators and other mass production sites. That creates an incubation process, much like a Greenhouse:
(http://grandsolarpower.com/indoorgreenhouse/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/greenhouse_plans.jpg)
(sry, I don't know the exact english word for it)

I'm sure you must have heard of "smog". It's nothing new, G. Britain has it, but it's a lower scale of the problem we face now.

The world is warming up. It has been proven many times with many tests, theories and experiments, with the cracks in the artic, with the seasons becoming offset, not raining where it should and raining where it shouldn't, sudden tornados, etc etc. (forgive my memory now... :\) (and aren't tsunamis related to it too, anyway?)

There's one thing about it that is a possibility, the world has ups and downs and it has fronzen and boiled before, a long long time ago (billions of years), and more than once, and it was no one's fault. But that is something that takes thousands of years (maybe millions) to happen and to notice the change.
In this case the change was noticed in a range of just around 50 years.

But why do the Government institutions deny it?

The oil extraction and coal producing companies are the worse characters in this sad story. Money interests aren't going to make it easier to save the earth.
It's better for them to have their bank accounts full today and still filling tomorrow, than live the rest of their lives with what's left of the profits.

Government institutions are the puppets in the middle. They can't turn their backs on the oil and coal sharks, otherwise they don't have any more black gold, and that means a whole country stopping. Literaly stopping. No oil and coal means no fuel, no transportations no manufacture, no production, no sales, no income, no nothing. This results in something like dropping the whole economy into a bottomless pit.

It's not only oil and coal, there's some other highly important busynesses that run the show or polute too much (like plastics producing and recicling), maybe not so much, but still enough to make things harder. But oil and coal are the ones that produce more polution. I believe coal is the worse. Not sure.

That said, it's not acceptable at all, but somewhat understandable that some governments refuse to accept the truth. Their close future depends on the reality NOW, not on the reality of two years from now, nor twenty, nor fourty.
Also, any person that is on a high position in politics only has to worry about themselves for the time being, untill new elections take place, "The next one up fixes it" kind of thinking (but the next one, he'll deal with it the same way).

ceebs on 3/12/2009 at 01:48

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The ten years of stable temperatures meme that been put about at the moment unfortunately is complete bollocks, produced by taking an outlying data point in the dataset (1998 fact fans) and using that to distort the evidence.

Anyone who tells you that there has been stable temperature for the last ten years and is arguing about climate change issues is either a fool, or almost criminally underinformed.

D'Juhn Keep on 3/12/2009 at 06:39

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Too right squire! I was just on me way down to see Thames Ironworks play Accrington Stanley when me old lady came over all funny. I asked er if she wanted the leeches but she told me to sod off. I couldn't see much of the game as it was a proper pea souper last night!

Toodle pip!

Fragony on 3/12/2009 at 07:34

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You can't decide that, it isn't like just setting out the party-line for a nodding-reflex from the hoard. Sorry, but no.

june gloom on 3/12/2009 at 08:47

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That just looks like some kind of horrible bio-mechanical waterborne spider.