Morte on 1/12/2009 at 17:33
Quote Posted by Muzman
This is like the Gish Gallop.
Evolution denial, HIV denial, holocaust denial, global warming denial. It all sounds the same after a while. Same strategies, same lack of credibility.
Fragony on 1/12/2009 at 17:41
I feel stronger
Yeah! Fuck those politicians! Let's just have cheap coal, oil, and gas, which we can burn for shits and giggles and heating of uninsulated homes and cooling of homes with massive (yet inexplicably shut) windows, and HUGE CARZ until it's all gone, and then...wait, fuck.
Been there for a while, nuclear power r r r
Kolya on 1/12/2009 at 17:43
Quote Posted by Fragony
I feel stronger
That's just an adrenaline rush from all the attention you get so undeservedly.
CCCToad on 1/12/2009 at 17:51
To the poster who mentioned that all the data is being released.
Unfortunately, it isn't going to be that easy:
from (
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece)
Quote:
SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
The UEA's Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
This is one I'm following with some interest. To me, though, the global warming aspects of this are less interesting (this doesn't settle anything either way) as the scientific aspects. Specifically, the hopelessly stupid idea that anything published "by real scientists" is true and should not be questioned has been blown out of the water. Hell, their work was even peer reviewed and a primary source for the UN and it turned out to be largely fabricated or unreliable (for example, a tree ring study with a sample size of three).
Believe it or not, scientists often do have agendas, fudge their work to show what people want to hear, or give the results that the people paying their bills want. Its why you should question studies from a tobacco company that show no statistically significant harm from smoking.
Again, before you jump on the "OMG HE DOESN"T BELIEVE IN SCIENCE HE IS RIGHT WING NUT!1!1!1!1!" bandwagon, read the post. My reading on this indicates it doesn't prove or disprove global warming, it just means that any of the studies this university produced should be considered invalid.
SD on 1/12/2009 at 18:03
in june i could go outside in shorts and t-shirt and now i need a heavy jacket with hood
the worlds getting colder you dumbasses
Fragony on 1/12/2009 at 19:08
SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
The UEA's Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
oh ffs.
edit: oh and told you so
zombe on 1/12/2009 at 20:48
Told what? That you live in a la-la land? ... yes - many times.
Namdrol on 1/12/2009 at 21:29
But it's all right because he feels strong.
Fragony on 2/12/2009 at 04:16
Hellowwww
SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
How, exactly, does this not get past the mental barricades? :weird:
I already know the answer, the answer being that global warming is an apocalyptic religion for people who think the flying spaghetti monster is clever, but can't you read. It's there, on your screen, try to see it. They even admit it's a scam but even that won't stop the lemmings from praying.
zombe on 2/12/2009 at 04:53
Quote Posted by Fragony
... They even admit it's a scam ...
uh ... wait ... what !? Tell where or stuff it!
Btw. You do realize the insignificance of what UEA did or did not do? Or do you actually understand at all how Science works?