laplacian on 26/2/2003 at 08:13
Hello all,
I'm havng some major framrate problems in Morrowind. The game doesn't run smoothly at all. When I activated the FPS counter, I found that I was getting about 10 fps (in town). I turned everything down (800x600, view distance, AI dist., etc.) and I still get about 10-15. This is terrible! What is wrong? My system specs:
P4 1.4GHz
Win ME
640 MB PC800 RDRAM
Geforce 4 Ti4200 128MB (brand new)
Creative Soundblaster PCI 128
I also tried turning off Aniso & AA--no difference. I just got this GF4 card and I am very disappointed since the game performs about the same as it did with my old TNT2 (32MB). It looks much better, however (esp. the water). Any help would be appreciated.
Xenomorph on 26/2/2003 at 14:02
Did you try using the Morrowind FPS enhancer?
Bionicman on 26/2/2003 at 16:58
try checking how much ram your using. i had this problem too, but it turned out i had a lot of useless programs eating up a lot of my ram. ctrl-alt-delete'd them and bam, it ran as smooth as cured kagouti hide.
Xenomorph on 26/2/2003 at 17:50
Hmm, I've never touched a kagouti hide. Care to extrapolate?
laplacian on 26/2/2003 at 23:22
Xenomorph - I just downloaded the FPS enhancer. I will try it tonight and tell you how it goes, but I am not optomistic. My understanding is that it turns down some frills, like view distance, etc. when CPU/GPU use is heavy (in town) and turns them back up when you are out of town. This way you keep a more constant frame rate. But I don't think this will work well for me because I tried turning everything down and I was still getting ~15 FPS. But I'll try it.
Bionicman - I am only running the bare minimum of applications (I have selective startup) and I have plenty of RAM (640 MB). Most of it is unused because I also downloaded an NT-like taskmanger and it shows that most of mem is free.
I was looking at the elder scrolls boards and apparently 15 FPS is about as good as you can get in town. (Other people with 2GHz CPU's and Ti4600's get 15 FPS.) Out of town, it is better (>30) and indoors it is the best (>60). So maybe this is as good as it gets for me (or anyone).
Thanks for the help. By the way, what frame rate do you guys get? Do you get 30 in town? If so, what are your system specs and detail settings? Thanks.
Ania on 26/2/2003 at 23:27
Many people have said that Windows ME is not worth running. Perhaps changing to XP or something may help? I run my game on Win 98, with lower specs (compared to yours, that is), and it runs fine.
I also noticed that performance improved when I got a faster HDD (7200 rpm)
Ania
Striker on 26/2/2003 at 23:52
You should definately download the Detinator 40.72 drivers, which is what I use. I updated to these when I had a TNT2 and it trippled the FPS. I've now got a GF4 Ti4200 with an Athlon XP 2000+ and I can run it at 1024x768 with Pixel shading, full shadows, full view distance and AI distance over half. I usually get 30 FPS in towns, but much higher every where else.
Try running at the same resolution as your desktop - this helps sometimes. Also, make a copy of your morrowind.ini file, then change the interior and exterior cell buffer values to 32 and 64 (I think they are usually 16 and 32).
Hope that helps a little.
-Striker
laplacian on 27/2/2003 at 00:38
Ania - I am stuck with ME right now until I can afford to get a new computer. I have an ultra ATA 100 7200 RPM HDD and it works very well with all my other applications.
Striker - I installed the Detonator 41.09 driver, but then removed it because some applications looked weird. For example, the buttons on one of my applications (Eudora e-mail program) are all blacked out when using 32-bit on desktop and the 41.09 driver. I think my MSI GF4 came with 30.xx drivers. I have an old copy of the 40.72 driver somewhere, will that work better than 41.09? (By the way, I always run 32-bit on my desktop.) I will try editing the .ini file.
I've also heard that installing new Nvidia drivers can be a bit quirky (like I described above). Is there anything I should do special to install the new drivers? (I have tried installng over my current MSI drivers, uninstalling the old drivers first then installing 41.09, but I get weird stuff on a few applications.)
Thanks for the help...
Striker on 27/2/2003 at 01:42
The best thing to do is uninstall the drivers you have, set the display adapter to a generic Super VGA driver, reboot, then install the new drivers. Also make sure it overwrites any files if you are asked. This will make sure any newer files are replaced by the current ones.
I'm using the 40.72 drivers with my MSI GF4 Ti4200 and they work great! :D
-Striker
Bionicman on 27/2/2003 at 02:01
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Originally posted by Xenomorph Hmm, I've never touched a kagouti hide. Care to extrapolate? they're rough. as rough as sandpaper. until you cure it, then you'll swear you're touching cliff racer hide.