Galaer on 29/10/2023 at 21:06

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ORTHODOX WEDDING

Mission failed by Hexameron, because:

1. Must destroy rock wall behind Sorrow Springs.

(2.) If the player has not yet been to the Church/Sorrow Springs area and drops the photo on Marta's bed, it is impossible to sneak by the newly spawned hypersensitive guards patrolling the path up to the church.

First of all this rock wall that must be destroyed is actually boulder blocking passage. Therefore it's not property damage. That means that Hexameron's run was successful. Hexameron had problem with banner. Lever to open is is hidden under wooden planks. You can also go through it by crouching, but you will not manage to return through it that easily. Hexameron used banner transmigration, but there is easier way by opening 2 portculli with levers on their other sides. To safely kill Sava vampire bat must be far away.

If you get Hidden Treasure before you trigger it's objective you get bonus objective for that, but after triggering regular objective you lose bonus objective and Hidden Treasure vanish from yours inventory.

Also during marriage in church it's possible to mantle over invisible wall and quickly loot church and complete tasks in Sorrow Springs. Returning to church will teleport you to starting point in city. This way you don't need to return to these 2 areas.

STATS:

Time: 0:21:32; Loot: 1221/1496
Pockets Picked: 3/9; Locks Picked: 3
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 5000; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 1
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Secrets: 2/2

GHOST: SUCCESS
PERFECT GHOST: POSSIBLE

Galaer on 29/10/2023 at 21:09

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SLUGGS FM PACK

MISSION 3: LOCKED-IN

Vanguard gave up on this mission, because of poison damage from green clouds and red water. Green clouds works by invisible ON/OFF switch - there are moments when they hurt and every time after loading you will get hurt. But if you wait 2-3 seconds you will not get hurt. Save between all clouds.

At the beginning you must turn off generator, because it makes secret lever frobbable and this secret is necessary to complete mission. You can lean for lever without crossing 1st cloud, then turn power on and send elevator up.

Red water can't be beaten without damage, because there is key in it. It deals damage very quickly and it's 4 damage per hit. By crouching and dropping on edge, then slow drop in water I managed to get hit, frob key , turn around and mantle before scoring 2nd hit. Damage excused as last resort. Then you go through cloud to secret for exit key. And lastly final 3 clouds to exit door.

STATS:

Time: 0:02:44; Loot: 0/0
Pockets Picked: 0/0; Locks Picked: 0
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 0; Damage Taken: 4; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Secrets: 1/1

GHOST: SUCCESS

klatremus on 3/11/2023 at 18:46

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Game: Thief 2
FM: Patriot, Mission 6: Pathfinder

Ghost - Success
Perfect Thief - N/A
Supreme Ghost - Success
Perfect Supreme - N/A
Time - 42:37
Loot - None
Pockets Picked - None
Secrets - 3/3
Locks Picked - 0
Backstabs - 0, Knockouts - 0
Damage dealt - 10, Damage taken - 0
Innocents Killed: 1, and others Killed: 0
Consumables - 1 Water Arrow

See the entire report with screenshots (https://www.klatremus.org/Patriot6.htm) here!
Loot list (https://www.klatremus.org/Patriot6_L.htm) here.
YouTube let's play (https://youtu.be/U-IuITP-SKI?si=aRJl92s48EwjX6qV) here!

Comments:
A very weak entry in the campaign. Yes, the first five missions were stellar, but this is so far below in quality that it actually leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The locations are uninteresting, the plot incomprehensible, the distances unbearable, and not to mention clues to cryptic puzzles being completely non-existent. I just want to forget about this mission and move on to a (hopefully) better continuation. To be honest, I wish this one had been deleted during beta.

I had to locate evidence that the major had been taken, along with finding a guide to take me across the quicksands. That was it.

Not much to mention other than I never used the westernmost tree in the starting forest. It required the taking of a tree branch to get back, which was unnecessary for Supreme. I used the dark forest route instead. It was a longer trek, but eliminated the pickup. Snuck through the valley with the frogs carefully. It was the only area that required any kind of sneaking. They didn't hear me dropping into the water close to the bridge.

Saw the pagan and went all the way back to grow the lupine. I don't think dousing the firefly swarm should be a Supreme bust, despite it removing a light source (image below). The objective mentions growing the plant in a dark spot, so it obviously implies the necessary preparations. I tossed the glowing lupine across the forest a few times, in order to more easily avoid the treebeasts' gaze.

https://www.klatremus.org/Patriot6_files/image001.jpg

The shaman didn't see me at any point, as her hut was dark. Killing her and dealing damage directly followed the objective. Returned the lupine and the useless bottle on my way back, then followed the pagan to the end. Easy.

Notes:
- The water arrow was used to remove the light source where the lupine grows. This is heavily implied by the objective, so I argue no Supreme bust.
- The kill and damage dealt is from downing the shaman. This follows the objective directly, so no bust. She was not alerted in the process.

Galaer on 19/11/2023 at 22:09

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BLOODSTONE PRISON

Mission failed by Vanguard, because:

- Cannot ghost lil green spiders in sewers.

Sewers are impossible to ghost, but it's possible to skip them thanks to new mantle. You can climb through chimney to roof by putting in fireplace holy water and on it crate. Then you need to very slowly approach it and mantle on it, which is very hard. Sometimes when mantling game teleports me in front of fireplace, which is weird. From crate you can jump and mantle on top, but during mantle you need to hold forward to not get stuck on edge. Also bring with you another crate and douse 4 torches near front door. Go to right corner near door, put crate and from it mantle on wall. Here is door leading to area past sewers. To exit simply drop on grass near crate.

Sewers contain Bloodstone key, which opens front door, gate to 1st area of prison and door out of sewers. This means it's impossible to enter sewers from side of wall near front entrance without key and it means that loot from chest past spiders (worth 100) must be skipped. As for frogs protecting holy hammer - they alert to undead and shortly after my entrance to prison they explode and aren't any problem.

STATS:

Time: 0:28:47; Loot: 1679/1879
Pockets Picked: 4/5; Locks Picked: 5
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 0; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0

GHOST: SUCCESS
PERFECT GHOST: IMPOSSIBLE. 100 loot from sewer chest must be skipped, because sewers can't be ghosted.

Galaer on 19/11/2023 at 22:12

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DOCK LAND

This mission became later base for TTGM 2: Shore Leave. Vanguard failed it, because:

- Forced to blackjack a Hammerite & archer watching over alley on dockside route to get to Custom House.
- The behavior of the 2nd floor guard pacing in and out of the office in Rameriz's warehouse (#3) is really phony. His eyesight extends behind his ears. His hearing is so sensitive that a pin drop must sound like an exploding grenade. And he is hardwired with a proximity trigger; get too close even from behind and he goes on full alert. Even when on a mossed floor while crouched and approaching him from the rear, he'll go off when you get a couple feet from him, but this is the technique of trailing him and passing him on his backside as he turns that is needed to get past him. The office is fully lit. There is a torch in there but dousing it is useless; the light level change is insignificant. The guard will spot you wherever you are crouched in this anteroom to the office whether the torch is doused or not. With his pacing, the guard is out of the anteroom for only 18 seconds. I can pre-moss some of the noisy tile floor before going in and moss more as I go in to get to the farthest corner, then I have to pick the office door (there's no key for it). This takes 30+ seconds, so obviously you will never have enough time to get the door picked to duck into and hide in the office before the guard returns. You won't have enough time to get to the office door, pick it a little, and run back out, either; by the time you're running back out the guard has turned and he will spot you because of his overly keen eyesight. Obviously this guard was deliberately made a mutant with excessively sensitive hearing, an overranged view for eyesight, and a very unrealistic proximity trigger. I was forced to tap this guard.

Just like Vanguard said in his report you need to buy 1 rope arrow. You will also need 2 moss arrows, but these can be found. About problem #1 - I could swear that in my test run archer was on wooden ledge inside building and he wasn't any problem and I noticed that Hammerite sometimes turn around only to return to turn again towards window. This could give me 1-2 seconds to pass him while strafe running. And that was my plan, but in my ghost run I noticed that archer is positioned above passage. Even nudging him wouldn't help me. Luckily I knew about alternate route that can only be used, because of new mantle.

Go to docks with zombie and climb fallen crane to top of passage patrolled by 2 Hammerites. Jump on pipe and now you need to crouch and go forward to mantle on middle window. Then uncrouch and run to other side. If Hammerites are walking together it shouldn't be a problem, if they are far away you will need to be very quick. Return path requires you to drop on edge of window and lean to the side towards window, but not too close to wall, because then mantling will cause you to fall. While leaning jump forward and mantle on top of passage. Then jump quietly on crane and quietly walk backwards down. And with new mantle you can enter Custom House without dousing torch - just mantle on pipe and then on walls.

Before going to problem #2 in warehouse #3 there is problematic purple box to picklock. Around boxes is walking 1st patroller. Near elevator is 2nd patroller to watch and he can spot you when he walks towards elevator. There are 2 patrollers walking through box room and sometimes they can block on 1st patroller near purple box. That's a lot already, but there is also hyper sensitive patroller on 2nd floor. When you hear door opening you need to stop picklocking purple box and hide, because there is no shadow near purple box. That's a lot to worry and this picklock isn't short.

Now let's talk about problem #2. It's not on Vanguard;s failure list, so when ghosting this mission I thought he figured out how to deal with this guard and I didn't want to check his report. I wanted to figure it out on my own. So hyper sensitive guard alerts in 3 ways: proximity alert when you are too close to him, by seeing you even from far away and by hearing even smallest sound made by you. He walks on wooden ledge towards elevator and then enters room with marble floor, electrical light and single torch, which dousing doesn't make any difference. There is also door that you need to picklock and there isn't enough time to even get close to it. I tried to steal key from his belt from shadow near edge of wooden ledge (edge is actually well lighten unfortunately) and I could do it without triggering proximity alert, but second later guard would move closer and alert to me. Since these are perfect shadows he would walk into me in search mode without noticing me. I had problem how to deal with him.

I only managed to find out how to leave door open. There is good shadow on box near blue chest near door. I saved when guard was in doorway, then I quietly dropped on edge of wooden ledge and lean right to frob door before it would close. Then I returned to shadow near chest. I needed to moss floor to door and on it's other side and wait for guard to be closer to elevator to enter and close door behind me. I couldn't get to locked door and there is no place to hide, so after entering the room guard would immediately run to me. I could block him while standing behind door, which prevents all forms of alert, but I can't do anything with that. Even if I could it would be impossible to leave. I tried to walk behind him into room, but when he turns he immediately see me, so again that's impossible. There was possibility to block his path with vrates, but there isn't many crates in this mission and this method isn't very reliable and is tedious. At the end I was defeated. Just before going to sleep I remembered a possible method only available in old FMs. Basically if door is locked and I will steal AI's key for it, then save and load AI will stop it's patrol and stand in place. Maybe it's possible. After all this also is an old mission. But this needed to wait until next day.

Next day I tried to do this method. I tried already to steal key during previous day and failed, but maybe if I try harder I will find a way. And I found. First I loaded save with opened door with locked lock, because I want guard to still patrol after stealing his key. For hiding spot I chose small shadow near elevator and near edge of wooden ledge. It's not close enough toguard's end of patrol, but I was safe from his proximity alert. I only needed to worry for 2 guards below. To get to guard I needed to moss f wooden floor between my hiding spot and his end of patrol. I waited for him to turn around and then I walked forward and hold lean forward in this order (opposite order - lean forward and move forward will cancel leaning). After frobbing key back off to shadow and go to shadow near blue chest. Once again I mossed floor leading to door and when guard was near elevator I went to close door and quickly saved and loaded game. I did that slightly before door completely closed, but it still worked - guard stood in place looking towards elevator. Unlock door, enter and lock it behind you, then loot this place and drop to 1st floor. I was worrying a bit that I will not manage to leave warehouse through front entrance, because it's well lighten and in front of hyper sensitive guard, though it's on 1st floor, but he didn't see me even though I saw his head. Alternative would be to go through docks orunlock door to restart guard's patrol route.

The only thing I needed to do was acrobatics to get back to Custom House. It was easier this time, because Hammerites were walking together. So finishing this mission now was easy. And then I read Vanguard's report to check his solution only to find out he just KO-ed guard and forgot to mention that as cause of failure.

STATS:

Time: 1:15:01; Loot: 3295/3720
Pockets Picked: 4/5; Locks Picked: 19
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 0; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0

GHOST: SUCCESS
PERFECT GHOST: POSSIBLE