downwinder on 2/12/2020 at 03:43
congrats on elevator mission series by jis, i love all his missions,his stuff is so out of the box,that is what makes them great
still waiting for people to tackle dront missions "plot" not sure if its even possible to ghost/etc as there is so many a.i's very sensative and the amount of tile floors/etc,but they are so much fun if you dont mind hacking enemys as you go along,i never would attempt ghosting them as i am not that type of player
Galaer on 4/12/2020 at 17:04
Plot Campaign has already been reported by me. I didn't like the design. As for ghosting - it's tricky with so many guards and there is always this one ghost bust that you must do to beat the missions. So no, Plot can't be successfully ghosted.
downwinder on 4/12/2020 at 20:08
Quote Posted by Galaer
Plot Campaign has already been reported by me. I didn't like the design. As for ghosting - it's tricky with so many guards and there is always this one ghost bust that you must do to beat the missions. So no, Plot can't be successfully ghosted.
just read repot on plot ,i got a question about mission 3 when you first enter cemetary,on right side you can climb on the stone thing and drop into a area that is not accesable normal way and it takes you to a fake wall then into a room with a zombie but the door to continue dont open and i never found a key for it,did you see that area?
Galaer on 4/12/2020 at 21:30
Quote Posted by downwinder
just read repot on plot ,i got a question about mission 3 when you first enter cemetary,on right side you can climb on the stone thing and drop into a area that is not accesable normal way and it takes you to a fake wall then into a room with a zombie but the door to continue dont open and i never found a key for it,did you see that area?
I don't really remember. I know I tried to get over barricade, but noticed later that passage leading forward can't be opened from this side, so I went back. I don't remember what kind of door it is, but if it's wooden you may try using sword. I don't see in my notes any key to be find in Cemetery. Maybe Cemetery key would work. IO really don't know.
downwinder on 5/12/2020 at 00:30
Quote Posted by Galaer
I don't really remember. I know I tried to get over barricade, but noticed later that passage leading forward can't be opened from this side, so I went back. I don't remember what kind of door it is, but if it's wooden you may try using sword. I don't see in my notes any key to be find in Cemetery. Maybe Cemetery key would work. IO really don't know.
ifs metal door cant be bashed,all while the zombie was chasing me around room,not sure if the key is later in mission then having to backtrack,and with new mantle getting up the barricade was easy,entie section back there with one part of wall highlighting opening into a building,then the door,i tryed all keys i had at the time nothing worked
Galaer on 6/12/2020 at 19:13
ISLAND OF MADNESS
Master of Horror Contest mission. Ruined city is quite easy to ghost. The only problem is getting out of Belltower. I dropped on stationary shadow under it. Next is entrance to King's Tomb - you must shoot broadhead arrow through fire into statue. This creates explosion and sadly it's heard by enemies inside (ghost bust #1). I couldn't avoid this bust.
Tomb is easy to ghost, but then you are forced to get into portal. Drop into blood pool will 2nd alert treebeasts (ghost bust #2). There is low gravity and there is no shadow here, so you will be forced to escape from them. Grab 8 fire arrows and mantle on pillar from it jump to highest pillar and from there kill 2 treebeasts (ghost bust #3-4). This trigger boss and 2 treebeasts to show up and alert to you (ghost bust #5). Kill boss (that's an objective) to kill all enemies and spawn exit portal. When boss shoot fireball jump in place. He can also step forward and that's what you want, because under pillar he can't shoot you. Just lean forward to shoot him. Also on exit beach is blue gem, so you need to be fast to grab it.
STATS:
Time: 0:41:08; Loot: 2915/2945
Pockets Picked: 0/0; Locks Picked: 0
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 130; Damage Taken: 4; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 3
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Secrets: 0/0
GHOST: IMPOSSIBLE
Galaer on 6/12/2020 at 19:13
JOHN DOSIO'S COMPOUND
It's one of "kill them all" missions made by Cardia. A lot of light and barely any shadow. Also lots of metal floor. Really tough loot objective where you need to grab most of purses (62/65) from Mechanists patrolling this base. And there is kill objective, but in these kind of missions bosses can't be killed in one hit, but rather 50.
So 1st room can be ghosted. Fall into right corner and go towards center of the room. Grab invisibility potion and go to opposite left corner. Go to passage and use invisibility potion to sneak through passage. And that's where ghost run ends. You can't continue going on this floor, because next passage is too well lighten and before you sneak into shadow, you will get spotted by one of 2 Mechanists on the side. Upstairs is also impossible. It's well lighten metal floor ledges with Mechanist patroller.
Trying to rash will make Mechanists go after you and you will get even more alerts that way. You don't have blackjack, so you can't KO them. And killing them will alert more Mechanists, so I decided to abort this ghost run.
GHOST: IMPOSSIBLE
Galaer on 6/12/2020 at 19:14
THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS
It's December, so let's ghost some Christmas mission. It's pretty easy to ghost mission. The biggest problem is beginning. Instead of dropping on pipe, which is loud, jump to small snowy roof below. To return back to house - drop on right edge of pipe, jump to edge of next pipe and then jump over this pipe to roof.
Another problem is Van Dyke's Kitchen. Open door to trigger conversation, so servant will leave, douse fire, wait a minute (I went to loot upstairs) and slowly get inside. Here is some food for objective and loot.
STATS:
Time: 0:23:58; Loot: 1956/1956
Pockets Picked: 6/7; Locks Picked: 6
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 0; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Secrets: 1/1
GHOST: SUCCESS
PERFECT GHOST: SUCCESS
Galaer on 6/12/2020 at 19:15
OF THE SINISTER AWAKENING
This is quite short mansion mission. Mansion that I saw in FM based on Bafford Manor. I think it was called Lord Bafford's Secret. Design of the house is identical. Ghosting is pretty easy until attack of the monks. I want Mechanists to destroy especially these monks observing entrance to Basement and main entrance.
Also immediately after using Void key, I'm taking 4 Elemental keys and walk behind newly spawned monk on this floor. I dodged him from the right and here is 1st lock to unlock. Then I go through window on roof and drop on logs near entrance to Basement. Here I manipulated survived Mechanist to kill 2 monks, so only 2 patrolling monks survived outside. Then I'm going to blocked room and then to Basement. Monk can see through generator. When he's turned left - go to storage room. When he's turned right - go through hole to last lock. Then go through door to Cellar and douse 2 torches at the bottom of stairs and then douse also 2 torches on the side. After grabbing Artifact 3 monks will go into search mode, but it's scripted, so I don't count that as a ghost bust.
STATS:
Time: 0:29:02; Loot: 1700/1700
Pockets Picked: 2/3; Locks Picked: 0
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 0; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Bodies Discovered: 2
Secrets: 0/0
GHOST: SUCCESS
PERFECT GHOST: SUCCESS
Galaer on 6/12/2020 at 19:17
THE RADIANT GARDEN
City mission with many ghost busts. It's really tough, because loot objective is very high and many houses has AI looking right in front of entrance doors and these rooms are well lighten. Enemies are very sensitive and they can't go into search mode from sound of dousing torches.
FIRST AREA
1st shop is near start. I went through window and took crate to reach loot on high shelf. Tavern is impossible to ghost, so for now I'm gonna skip it. There is some loot near unfrobbable door. 2nd shop can be ghosted if you go very slowly along right wall, then nudge shopkeeper right and loot it. One more thing, long time after looting 1st shop I heard shopkeeper from it shouting and running to Tavern, then immediately returning to his shop. I don't count it as a ghost bust, because while being there I avoided even 1st alert and it was after 1 minute of leaving his shop.
Next are Sewers. I doused 3 torches, then sneaked to 3 gas arrows and diary. I gassed 2 big spiders on the right, then nudged left spider closer to the other and gassed them too. Then I leaned towards hole with 5 small spiders and gassed them. This completes spider extermination objective.
SECOND AREA
In this area is only Hotel. Go along right wall and enter it. Servant may be a problem here. When he go right, go left and grab all loot. Wait for him and go behind him to loot this room too. Kitchen is impossible to ghost. Also in right dining room you are safe under left plant. Upstairs you can douse gas torch. 2nd room is impossible to ghost, because servant inside alerts to the sound of opening door (ghost bust #1). To avoid him running away I KO-ed him (ghost bust #2). Inside is bedroll for objective.
THIRD AREA
Here is only small mansion. Douse gas torch above entrance and hide in doorway. You can't ghost this place, but you must visit it. I shot flash arrow in front of 2 guards (ghost bust #3), KO-ed 2 guards (ghost bust #4-5). Sadly 2nd guard shout body discovery comment after he got KO-ed and alerted noble from Bedroom and guard from Garden (ghost bust #6). I looted this place, go Air Talisman and went to next area.
FOURTH AREA + FOREST
This area has only 3 buildings. Bookstore is impossible to ghost. Guard's house can be ghosted by going under shelf and leaning to the side for loot on top of it. From Jewel Shop you can only grab 1 gem, rest is impossible to ghost. Forest is easy, there is no loot just avoid haunts and black trees. In Pagan house is Black Crystal.
LOOT OBJECTIVE
To complete it I still need 1410 loot. I have 1 invisibility potion, but I'm planning to use it in Tavern, because there are 3 AI's. First I go to Jewel Shop, shoot flash arrow and KO woman (ghost bust #7-8). I did the same in Bookstore (ghost bust #9-10). Then I went behind guard to Tavern where I used invisibility potion and quickly grabbed 4 bottles to finally complete loot objective. I went back to Sewers to finish this mission.
STATS:
Time: 0:35:29; Loot: 8009/8609
Pockets Picked: 0/0; Locks Picked: 2
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 5
Damage Dealt: 5; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Bodies Discovered: 1
Secrets: 0/0
GHOST: IMPOSSIBLE
