Galaer on 29/5/2020 at 07:45
Quote Posted by klatremus
But you are not causing the 2nd alert, are you? You are simply walking into a necessary area, and the alert comes from a scripted event decided by the author. Am I understanding it correctly? I haven't played the mission.
That's exactly what's happening. All right, I will edit my report.
Galaer on 29/5/2020 at 11:37
One more discovery. So in Unreported T2 missions there are Shadows of the Past and Mission 3. Guess what. Shadows of the Past is name of campaign that supposed to have 6 missions, but only 1 has been completed - Mission 3. There is no point to list them separately.
klatremus on 29/5/2020 at 18:50
Thanks, ill take a look later. I appreciate the scrutiny of those lists. Its easy to miss something when i havent played the missions.
Edit: So I looked into your above statement, and what you're saying is correct. However, Shadows of the Past is also the name of the 2nd mission of the 3-mission release called Dark Beginnings by John D. In the info file it is also known as A Spooky Interlude. Mission 3 (of the unfinished Shadows of the Past campaign) is by Christine, and although they have the same title, they are definitely different missions. I will edit the list to make this clear, but they should definitely be separate entries in the list, and neither of them has been ghosted. Missions 1 and 3 of the Dark Beginnings campaign have been ghosted, Burglary In Blackbrook and Quick Cash, respectively. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think my assessment is correct here.
Galaer on 30/5/2020 at 07:30
Thanks for finding this. By the way, I searched for Burglary in Blackbrook report and couldn't find it in Reported FMs. I searched in B, D and Q letters and nothing. Could you put a link to the report?
Edit: Just after posting it, I found report in Thief 1 category.
Galaer on 30/5/2020 at 09:00
SHOES AND DRESSES
Mission is quite easy to ghosted, but there is one trick you need to perform - roping down from wooden ledge you are standing on. Very rare trick. Sometimes it appears in missions, but when it appear you need to do it only once. In this mission for regular ghost you need to do it once, but for perfect ghost you need to do it 4 times. To do it you lean to the side and target side of wooden ledge you are standing on. Then slowly approach while going backwards towards it. Sometimes you can bounce out of rope and get hurt. It's scary trick.
Supreme ghost has 3 problems. First - Purple Wizard's key can only be returned in corner under ladder. It's far away from this wizard, but still in the same room. So it's not a supreme bust. Second - entering and leaving Lady Brambleton's Room without turning off light. It's hard to do. Start from side door, crouch and strafe run to middle of wall. You are in barely any shadow. From here super slowly approach room and open door with key. Very slowly enter. In the same fashion you must leave. Also it's impossible to grab loot on fireplace, because drunken guard will spot you.
And now third - you can't close window (after getting out from Magic Realm) and leave. Well, technically you can, but drop from window will be painful. Dropping on patroller is exploit and there is not enough time to rope down. If you try to jump on other window, you will block closing window. So how about crates. You can do stack of crates under window. It's dark there, but area directly under window is a path of patroller. Putting crates on patroller's path is a supreme bust. So adventure to Magic Realm must be skipped.
That means that you can barely complete loot objective for supreme ghost, but you are forced to skip 130 loot from fireplace of Lady Brambleton and 507 loot from Magic Realm.
STATS:
Time: 29 min 27 s; Loot: 5224/5224
Pockets Picked: 2/2; Locks Picked: 6
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 0; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Secrets: 0/0
GHOST: SUCCESS
PERFECT GHOST: SUCCESS
SUPREME GHOST: POSSIBLE
PERFECT SUPREME: IMPOSSIBLE
Galaer on 30/5/2020 at 09:00
A SHOPPING STOPOVER
Short and quite easy mission to ghost. There is barely visible Master key on path near water, which opens every door and chests. I avoid triggering optional objective, because it forces me to open Barn. This means fight between burricks and guards. Something I I want to avoid. After getting my equipment, I returned Master key and went back to start.
STATS:
Time: 11 min 37 s; Loot: 737/957
Pockets Picked: 0/3; Locks Picked: 1
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 0; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Secrets: 0/0
GHOST: SUCCESS
PERFECT GHOST: POSSIBLE
SUPREME GHOST: SUCCESS
PERFECT SUPREME: POSSIBLE
Galaer on 30/5/2020 at 09:01
SHADOWS OF EIDOLON
Very linear mission. Keys vanish after use. Also our blackjack acts as flare and by hitting torches I can lighten them. I'm not gonna do that though. To beat this mission I need to turn lights on, grab holy water arrows and kill Joran. All of this isn't connected directly to the objective, but it's absolutely necessary to progress.
Turning on generator will open path forward. Killing Joran with holy water arrow will spawn exit key. Also simultaneously with Joran will die all haunts, so no alert from them. But since there is no objective to kill Joran, it means there is no way to ghost this mission.
STATS:
Time: 11 min 18 s; Loot: 0/0
Pockets Picked: 1/1; Locks Picked: 0
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 0; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Secrets: 0/0
No kill in the stats. That's because Joran is human Hammerite, not undead. But holy water arrow will kill him anyway and all haunt. Maybe it's just scripted that holy water arrow when hit him, it will also kill him and haunts. I don't know.
GHOST: IMPOSSIBLE
SUPREME GHOST: IMPOSSIBLE
Galaer on 30/5/2020 at 09:02
DARK BEGINNINGS
MISSION 2 - A SPOOKY INTERLUDE (SHADOWS OF THE PAST)
Mission is very easy to ghost it. Some pieces of loot can be hard to find, but all loot can be find before spawning undead. Spawned undead is very easy to dodge.
STATS:
Time: 3 min; Loot: 862/862
Pockets Picked: 0/0; Locks Picked: 0
Back Stabs: 0; Knock Outs: 0
Damage Dealt: 0; Damage Taken: 0; Healing Taken: 0
Innocents killed: 0; Others killed: 0
Iron Beasts Destroyed: 0; Disabled: 0
Secrets: 0/0
SUPREME GHOST: SUCCESS
PERFECT SUPREME: SUCCESS
Galaer on 30/5/2020 at 20:22
klatremus, why did you put Mansion 48 into Unreported FMs? This mission was never released publicly and author didn't wish for this mission to be shared. If you want to report it, you should first contact author and ask him for permission.
klatremus on 30/5/2020 at 21:38
I put it in the Unreported FMs list because...well...it hasn't been reported on. I saw someone wrote the author didn't want the mission file archived, and therefore only made it available publicly for 24 hours. However, the mission was still released for those 24 hours. There is no info file and no name of author is given anywhere, so I wouldn't even know who to contact. I have no plans of reporting on the mission as of yet, I just put it in the list to be complete. No disrespect intended. If you can't make a small ghost report on a mission, then you shouldn't be able to make a post about it either (which I personally think is silly), and there was already a whole thread made. If the author didn't want the mission spoken about, then imho he shouldn't have made it.
Edit: There, I put a note in the list to contact the author before reporting.