Enchantermon on 28/12/2009 at 06:32
You can't change the thread title in Quick Edit mode, but in Advanced Mode, you can.
Good luck. I'm going to be doing this same thing in a year or so, depending on the pay of the job I get after I graduate.
Volitions Advocate on 28/12/2009 at 06:34
thanks, *fixed*
TBE on 30/12/2009 at 23:59
Let me know how you like that Intel chip. All my builds lately have been AMD chips exclusively.
As for things being cheaper, no, RAM has gone through the roof. Unless you're a manufacturer of PCs and had some bought up at early 2008 prices, then you're paying a lot.
I am not finding many good deals lately for PC building. Last year I got parts way cheaper.
I am building a system for a friend this weekend. AMD 3 core machine with 2GB RAM. I bought parts that are all upgradeable. Kind of important to me. I see so many people get locked into a tech build that won't be good in 2 years. The mobo on this is AM3 socket, so future chips can just be dropped in.
LancerChronics on 31/12/2009 at 05:24
Hmm, not fully sure, but don't I7 processors only support ram in a 3/6/9 GB configuration? maybe it supports both... /shrug.
Have that case by the way...love it!
Volitions Advocate on 31/12/2009 at 05:49
intel has 2 sockets that support the i7
sockets 1156 and 1366. you're probably thinking of the 1366 which is exclusively i7 and triple channel ram, thus the 3/6/9 configuration.
the 1156 is what the i5 was released on, but they also have models of the i7 available.
in fact the 1156 is apparently the one intel is going to support for further development, and the 1366 is only for the current line of extreme edition procs.
It's kind of the same as the Athlon FX-51 era from AMD where they said they would support both socket 939 and 940, but in the end dropped 940. Except we know ahead of time that 1366 doesn't have much room ahead of it for upgrading.
tbh. I've been behind in the building scene ever since multi core procs came out. and the naming conventions have all changed and I found it very difficult to even get this list to the state it is in now. I actually know nothing about what amd has to offer currently. Since they merged with ati their products kind of fell behind a bit. They've caught up int he videocard department though, and for pricepoint they again have the best value.
I guess we'll see in the future what happens with the technology. Crossfire mimicked SLI but now it's either Eyefinity or Nvidia 3D. the 3D seems a little weird to me, but who knows, especially with the success of Avatar, maybe it will grow some momentum?
Volitions Advocate on 31/12/2009 at 07:31
ugh... apparently the whole i5/i7/(upcoming) i9 issue is far more complicated than I thought. perhaps its a good idea to wait till Q2 next year to do this build.
LancerChronics on 1/1/2010 at 05:04
I picked up the AMD when I did my build (Phenom II X4 955). (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128282) My build.
It is no where near as powerful as the i7, but it runs great and serves my purposes (cheaper too).
Pros: Cheap, Runs great for the price, energy saving, cool(temp)
Cons: 2/4/8 config, Energy saving option means that there is a slight "warm-up" period if you go from doing nothing, to maxing your processor.
That basically seems to go for all the AMD's I studied when compared to Intel. The i7 will run hot though, so you may want a heatsink that isn't stock. If you do, you gotta be careful, cause the Storm Scout Case doesn't leave much room for one. (
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103066&cm_re=coolermaster-_-35-103-066-_-Product) This just barely fits.
Now you know about AMD's too, choose wisely. Oh, and AMD is working on a 6-core processor (Wired magazine). Not sure on release date.
Edit: on a side note, when you do build, and have your motherboard in the case, with the processor and the sink, etc. Connect your video card before you start messing with the wires. It's a really tough squeeze, but it will fit.
Volitions Advocate on 1/1/2010 at 16:08
well I just went to maximumpc.com and read the PDF of their november issue where they talk about the upcoming year.
Apparently all the guys i was talking to both online and in the local shops have no idea what the hell they're talking about.
the Lynnfield i5's and i7's are technically budget parts, built for the socket 1156, and they run at a marginally slower performace than the bloomfield i7's for socket 1366, (unless you get an extreme edition proc, but why on earth would you do that?)
But the 1366 socket is what intel is gearing up in the new year to really let fly because they're getting ready to release the i9 sometime in q2 2010. which is their new 6 core proc, as well as more versions of their current socket 1366 i7 lineup.
the truth is. getting a socket 1156 is cheaper and will give you a computer that rates about 90% compared to the 1366 i7's but without upgrade paths, and because of how the mobo manufacturing process works, no dual x16 sli/crossfire, only x8. (still x16 for one card) But getting a 1366 system will give you all the power, but you pay for it, BUT you get to a window into future upgrades.
So basically everybody had it wrong and now I am scrapping my build till next year when the dust has settled and everybody knows exactly what is going on with the tech.
I'll just upgrade my mobo and get some more ram and a new videocard.
I'm running a Q6600 now, which I think is on par or maybe just a tad slower than a Phenom II, i'm not sure. but I'll get the good videocard because that will have great performance no matter what proc I have, and I'll save my other 1000 bucks for next year, or maybe just use it to buy some cool guitar stuff.
And a (
http://www.circotech.com/rm-4190-19--4u-rack-mount-case.html) rackmount case for it so I can use MaxMSP and Reason when I play live. I'll have a really space-aged setup.
