EvaUnit02 on 22/8/2017 at 02:21
Quote Posted by Renzatic
They're good for nostalgic value, at the very least.
I'm not saying that they shouldn't release them on Steam, by all means they should (Android ports exist so they have a modern codebase to do some easy ports to PC). I'm was saying exactly as I said:- if you haven't played them before you're not missing out on much if you choose to skip them. FF1 as you say has a very simple story. FF2 probably is the most complex storywise of the three NES FFs, but the RPG mechanics are god awful, so bad that the series never revisited them.
Quote Posted by Abysmal
Nope, it's all missions and story now. They corrected nearly every bit of that. They finished the game's story and made it all soloable and very quick to level. Your huge loss.
Interesting, I wasn't aware of this. I'll keep it in mind.
Quote Posted by Abysmal
so I hope you're right XII Zodiac Age comes to PC.
It'll come. FF X/X-2 HD came to PC a year after the PS4 is the precedent set.
icemann on 22/8/2017 at 02:25
I wonder what prompted the sudden rush of JRPGs onto Steam in the past few years. Used to be rare to see any at all.
Renzatic on 22/8/2017 at 02:48
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
I'm not saying that they shouldn't release them on Steam, by all means they should (Android ports exist so they have a modern codebase to do some easy ports to PC). I'm was saying exactly as I said:- if you haven't played them before you're not missing out on much if you choose to skip them. FF1 as you say has a very simple story.
Yeah, I guess I could agree with that. FF1 is fine if you're reliving the experience, but comes across as very straightforward and cliché if you're coming into it brand new. Plus, there's the fact that the remakes are so, so much easier than the original. On the NES, you could only buy a max 30 potions, only had so many spells you could use between rests, and you could only save at inns. If you didn't play conservatively, and plan things out accordingly, you could easily lose an hour or two of playtime. While the newer versions of FF are easier and more convenient to the player, it blunts the experience somewhat.
The Marsh cave on the GBA or iPad is just a bog standard dungeon in a bog standard JRPG. On the NES? It's a goddamn cruel hellhole of scary intensity most people won't return from.
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FF2 probably is the most complex storywise of the three NES FFs, but the RPG mechanics are god awful, so bad that the series never revisited them.
Actually, they did, just not in any of the mainline FFs. Final Fantasy Legend 1 and 2 use a greatly refined version of the mechanics first seen in FF2. They're still pretty opaque at times, but there's more of a rhyme and reason to everything.
It's funny. I played FFL long before the NES FF. When I played the latter, I was disappointed I couldn't put robots and slime monsters in my party. It's a shame that the weirdness of the Gameboy FFs didn't serve as the base of the series.
EvaUnit02 on 22/8/2017 at 02:48
Quote Posted by icemann
I wonder what prompted the sudden rush of JRPGs onto Steam in the past few years. Used to be rare to see any at all.
Dark Souls being a hit on Steam, followed by FF7 & 8. Also Recettear being a hit a few years back, opened the floodgates for Valve to see the demand for Japanese indies like visual novels.
Starker on 22/8/2017 at 03:08
From what I heard, it was that Valve first opened the floodgates and then were all, "Wait, people like this stuff? Seriously?". That's their argument against curation, basically -- that they never knew visual novels would be something that people wanted.
henke on 24/8/2017 at 17:47
[video=youtube;lLykKenAY4Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLykKenAY4Q[/video]
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icemann on 24/8/2017 at 17:59
Lies
Twist on 24/8/2017 at 23:57
Quote Posted by icemann
I wonder what prompted the sudden rush of JRPGs onto Steam in the past few years. Used to be rare to see any at all.
Pretty interesting article explaining this phenomenon at PC Gamer:
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http://www.pcgamer.com/how-japan-learned-to-love-pc-gaming-again/)
Lots of interesting bits in there; I didn't know how difficult it was to buy a game on Steam in Japan (and I wasn't aware of their anti credit card economy), and I had no idea there was a genetic predisposition to motion sickness that led to many Japanese gamers being turned off by first-person games.
Yakoob on 25/8/2017 at 00:21
Looks good, but nothing is impressive after Witcher 3 an