Kolya on 29/6/2010 at 12:08
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ercles on 29/6/2010 at 12:22
Quote Posted by Kolya
I said I wasn't a football fan, not that I didn't know what I'm talking about.
No, you really did say that, whether you realise it or not.
Cricket, Rugby, and Tennis have all managed to implement video review only in select tournaments and levels of play. This allows the games (such as your Siberian example) that cannot feasibly use video review to avoid it.
When you consider the players' reactions to various decisions both during and after matches I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't want to try and minimize the amount of terrible decisions change the result. Ditto for the coaches. I can understand why the referees wouldn't be keen on their reputation being reduced but the current situation isn't doing them any favors. Improving the standard of refereeing would certainly improve the image and integrity of the sport, and the fans obviously stand to benefit the most. So who loses out?
Would some sort of system relying on a tracking device inside the ball itself not be possible for detecting when it passes the plane of the goal?
hopper on 29/6/2010 at 12:42
Quote Posted by Kolya
I wonder how many of you worldcup armchair analysts have ever been to a game personally.
Get a grip, man.
Kolya on 29/6/2010 at 12:42
Oh but I do consider the reactions. I see them right now. They're awesome. :D
Ooooh the drama, a goal that wasn't given! Opinions people, we need to hear yours too!
And you think no one would lose? People discussed that Wembley goal for 44 years, man! Because that's a whole lot of what fans like to do: Discussing games.
Matthew on 29/6/2010 at 12:51
So, intentionally cripple a game to give Alan Green something to talk about the next day?
I think I've discovered the best defence for Bioshock ever.
Edit: and what's a leather jacket got to do with it?
Kolya on 29/6/2010 at 12:58
Cripple the game? Wait a second. The game has worked like that for a very long time.
You're the one who wants to change a successful concept.
ercles on 29/6/2010 at 13:12
That whole line of logic relies on the assumption that the way people participate and interact with sports has not changed, which it obviously has. Soccer has evolved far beyond what it used to be, and the attention surrounding the world cup is degrees of significance higher. That, combined with the fact that fans have a much higher expectation of standards of refereeing (thanks to changes made by more forward thinking sports) mean that the bar needs to be raised by FIFA.
I'm not convinced people tune into watch the world cup to see drama caused by continual bad decisions. When I see my team win because they got a leg up from the ref it sours the victory, as I know that they won't recieve the full credit and attention they deserve. I think soccer markets itself as a game of excitement and skill, and that is what people really watch it for, to see Suarez score that phenomenal goal against South Korea, and talk about that, rather than Lampard's disallowed effort which was almost as spectacular.
This is all of course also ignoring the fact that gambling on sport seems to be hugely more prevalent than ever before, which once again reduces the margin of error that people will allow for when they watch the sport.
Matthew on 29/6/2010 at 13:19
Quote Posted by Kolya
Cripple the game? Wait a second. The game has worked like that for a very long time.
You're the one who wants to change a successful concept.
If something works the way it does because the technology was not there to improve it at that time it does not necessarily mean it is successful, it means there was a lack of other options.
SubJeff on 29/6/2010 at 14:08
You're flogging a dead horse here.
Kolya on 29/6/2010 at 14:40
I think I sufficiently explained why this concept keeps on being successful, Matthew, without my whole line of logic relying on a single assumption, ercles. You can keep on ignoring that football isn't (just) for TV, that it's a sport of humans, not of machines and that there is a value to that, including the mistakes that will be made.
If you prefer "forward thinking sports" and think football "could take a few things from American football" why don't you stick with these. Your ideas are born out of the mass marketing of football which is bad enough as it is, without leaking into the core elements of the game.
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