Tocky on 18/6/2017 at 04:50
In truth I don't know how much Africa has become westernized. Capitalism has been eating it at an increasingly fast rate. As inevitable as it is it still strikes me as sad. I like that we have not stamped our imprint on every culture. I don't want to see the last tree cut down and the last child wander out wearing Nikes. But I have not played the game. Oh wait. Hell I think I have. It ran wonky so I did not carry on past the initial first sequence or two. Isn't this an OLD game? Out for a couple of years or more? Maybe older than that. Hmmm. Either I have preconceptions myself and did not notice or I'm thinking of another game. It seemed no worse than Far Cry Africa as I recall.
Oh well, carry on, I don't seem to know enough to condemn or defend the game anyway. I just know I don't like the cultural superiority inherent in being offended at another culture for not being western enough or for our depiction of it for not being western enough. What is cliche' to us may be everyday fare for others. Tarzan and Heart of Darkness were accurate to a large degree once upon a time though our response to it may not have been fair. Our attitudes may change about the working culture we stumble upon but that does not change how the culture was when we found it. If it hasn't "advanced" according to our standards then yay in my opinion. We are not the end all. Or we may well be but I find that diminishing diversity sad.
Hell I think I confused myself. I thought I knew what I started out to say and lost my way in sentiment.
driver on 18/6/2017 at 10:23
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Play the game first, Tockster. There are places in Africa with 'em, but they're hardly the rule rather than the exception at this point. Basing a decent portion of your game in said village complete with tribal overtones is pandering to an old-fashioned stereotype
I'd hardly say it was a decent portion, only half of one chapter (out of 6) takes place in the tribal villages. It probably would have gone without notice if the racism frenzy hadn't already been whipped up at that point.
Sulphur on 18/6/2017 at 10:40
I remember spending more than an hour there; maybe it was shorter, but I don't think so. It was an appreciable enough portion of the game to make an impression.
As far as the pre-release racism frenzy really was concerned, that really was over-reacting to the trailer. I don't see the point in slamming a game out of context, and in the context of the full game it wasn't trying to make any particularly terrible statements. It was just fairly stupid in some of its choices, which is an RE trademark, but that didn't stop people from putting more into it than there was. As I said, I found the village bit unnecessary as that was the first (and only) time the game made me go '...hrm'.
Thor on 18/6/2017 at 20:19
I had a couple of days of somewhat relaxing time (even if I was horribly fatigued through most of it) and some fulfillment and I had no access to wifi (except my android which was uesful for quick 5mins-total communication with some people). I had almost nothing on my laptop, expect for Mushishi, which I watched 3 episodes of, that I enjoyed quite a bit. Partially because it's one of the best things ever made. Partially because I had almost no alternatives at that point in time (it's just a slighlty harder thing to get into than a meme on the internet, as it requires some of that pesky thing called thought and not hedonism-centered thoughts, which happens to be the main pattern that the current society is fueled by). Which got me thinking just now - shit like compulsively checking facebook multiple times a day generally comes from a place of deep loneliness. I wonder if that's universal, not just me, because, well, obviously this stuff has been said before, and also, because I just feel it. Same goes for ttlg, although maybe not to such a big degree because it requires a bit more effort to be in ttlg. So all those filthy fagets staying on facebook all day are probably pretty messed up and only feed their messed-uppedness further by staying on it. Myself included, as of the last half a year or so... Quitting facebook is not unlike quitting another socially accepted but bad-for-you drug - such as alcochol, or sweets. And in some ways it's even harder because if you're wired in with the system and the people that use this cancer, then you sometimes have objective reasons to check it (and it goes down from there, even if you are reasonably fulfilled in your actual life).
To have sometihng on topic (I think 5 pages of discussion is more than enough for the title of this thread anyway): Farcry 6 - Hitler Did Nothing Wrong
Edit: Oh, and probably improtant to append to this: I did came here out of loneliness as well. That's what made me want to share this feeling in the first place.
Harvester on 19/6/2017 at 07:36
Nowadays I'm mostly on Facebook to read interesting news articles, opinion pieces and movie/game stuff that's being shared by people. If it was just "check out the new puppy I got" and "my kid just turned 3" stuff I think I'd quit. I'd like to have interesting discussions with people I know, but Facebook's not really the place for that.
Kolya on 19/6/2017 at 21:34
The reason I came to here in the first place was that I couldn't have interesting discussions with the people I knew about the subjects I cared about. Because they simply weren't interested in the stuff. A kind of loneliness.
What I'm saying is: It may be Facebook but it may also be that your friends suck. Sad face.
As for the guy wishing for a blaxploitation GTA4RE5HALO: It doesn't get much more inoffensive than ironically watching blaxploitation flicks nowadays. The Arena with Pam Grier anyone? Bushes a guy could hide in!
And no, not all video games are political unless you put on your extra ideological goggles. Sure a lot are in some marginal way, but where is the politics in Duskers, NaissancE, Typhoon2001, or any shootemup, any sports game, any turret defense?
Harvester on 22/6/2017 at 21:39
My friends suck? How funny that you should say that to me right now, when I'm given the best support a person could have by my friends and family, as I'm currently going through a tragic event now (which I might post about in due time). Piss off, Kolya.
Renault on 22/6/2017 at 21:45
I don't think that was meant to be taken so literally. I mean Kolya was basically saying that his friends on FB suck, so he came here instead.
Harvester on 22/6/2017 at 21:58
In that case, I was mistaken and I apologize Kolya, and withdraw my comment. Even if it was directed at me, you have no way of knowing I can't handle such comments right now. Thing is, I just lost my wife, she passed away. I'm not myself right now. I think it's wise I just read TTLG for the time being and not post too much, before I make more mistakes.
EDIT: dear Facebook friends of mine on TTLG, please don't post anything about my wife's passing on Facebook, unless it's a direct message on Messenger. I want to announce it myself when I'm ready for it.
FINAL EDIT: also, this thread shouldn't turn into a condolence message thread about my wife's death. Please keep posting about the actual topic. Send me a PM if you want to say something to me.
Kolya on 25/6/2017 at 09:37
Sent you a PM.
