eastgate2 on 2/1/2016 at 05:42
Did my best to approach fallout4 with an total open mind, I failed.
Fallout4 is an expansion pack for fallout3, which was retro-sci-fi mod for oblivion, which was a playable engine prototype for skyrim.
I hate seeing a monument on a hill, hike up and sit on a stool and watch sunrise in all of these games and pretend like they are different games.
Renault on 5/1/2016 at 22:27
Well, I'm 90 hours in, that's one hell of an expansion pack.
IMO, people get way too hung up on Bethesda games being similar. If the game is good and fun, who cares.
I think all the halfwits just want an opportunity to be oh so super clever - "Oblivion with guns!" and "TES 5.5!" and now...this.
Plus, no one would complain if it was Dark Souls 6.
Nameless Voice on 5/1/2016 at 22:44
I thought everyone expected it to be very similar to Fallout 3?
Yes, of course everyone was hoping it would take all of its strengths and improve on them while eliminating the flaws, but that was always wishful thinking.
The game has some nice stuff, mostly in the environmental design, it shows a lot of love and attention to detail (at least in some areas), and it's fun / addictive, but that still doesn't change that I can give a huge list of fairly objective flaws with it - much more than I'd ever observed in any of their other games (since Daggerfall, I guess.)
Then again, the reason I can give that list of flaws is clearly because I keep playing it - I'm on 150+ hours here. If it was just truly awful, I'd probably have just played it for a few hours and then stopped, and never have seen the issues.
I'm thinking of writing a full rant-review about it when I'm done.
Judith on 6/1/2016 at 09:56
For me Fallout 4 has something in common with Candy Crush Saga. Does it use some tricks to keep you addicted? Yes. Does it make it a good game? No.
I can understand why gamers can't differentiate the two aspects, since a lot of us are like junkies, always waiting for the next fix. But, the same happened to game critics, and I expect them to be smarter than that. Being addicted and having tons of things to do in a game doesn't make it GOTY, and Bethedsda having their own 'special' game category isn't a good thing either.
Renault on 6/1/2016 at 16:47
So you're arguing we're all just being manipulated and tricked into playing Fallout 4 for 100-200 hours each? Yeah, that's pretty lame and somewhat insulting. I give TTLGers much more credit than that.
As far as game critics, I wouldn't go elevating them up to the Pulitzer level anytime soon. Most are just gaming enthusiasts gone pro.
Judith on 6/1/2016 at 18:18
Well, you need around 50 hours to check the main quest and explore a bit, to get a more or less solid overview of the game. The sense of novelty has to wear off, as well as the hope that you'll find something meaningful to do in F4's shallow world. I know I had to waste 70 hours to give up, so I'm not blaming anyone for playing more or less than that.
I guess this kind of discussion is about the problem of not seeing forest for the trees. I'd say that Bethesda is past the point, where this was more ambiguous (Skyrim?). It's a pretty crappy forest now.
Vivian on 19/1/2016 at 12:07
YO, I'm currently looking for some motivation to finish this thing. Are there any quests that aren't just go down the shops and murder everyone? I just did the one where you rescue some thespian dude stuck up the top of a shopping centre. Turns out he's been trying to teach the supermutants shakespeare. You would think, wouldn't you, that you could use that to fire off some imaginative setpieces, right? Maybe the mutants get really into it, and one of them decides he's Macbeth or Richard III or something, or maybe they decide they want to be cultured themselves and you get up there and find they've built a stage and are arguing about who has to wear the dress this time. At the very least they could quote some lines at you. But no, you get up there, and guess who's there? At the end of the shakespeare-themed sidequest? A big mutant man called fist who shouts at you and shoots you with a minigun. This game is shit. Is there any reason to carry on? Does it get better?
Sulphur on 19/1/2016 at 13:13
You're missing the point, Viv. That quest is obviously meant to illustrate the greatest of the bard's quotes from Macbeth through subtext: all around, no one but poor players, fretting and strutting. All that sound, and all that fury, and in the end, after you're done killing the green-skinned mutated bastard and move on? It signifies absolutely nothing.
That is a bravura fucking performance wrapped up in a quest. Be ashamed that this has eluded you. Ashamed.
Vivian on 19/1/2016 at 17:39
Haha, nice. But seriously fuck this game, its awful bullshit. Bethedsa have fallen off their chair.
Sulphur on 19/1/2016 at 18:40
To be fair, they only ever had half their ass on it.