Jason Moyer on 30/10/2008 at 16:00
Quote Posted by BR796164
Karma falls even if nobody sees you stealing things
That sounds pretty realistic, actually.
Rogue Keeper on 30/10/2008 at 16:09
That might be, well if you take Hinduist/Buddhist spiritual concepts as realistic in the first place...
One more thing though, about philosophy of the Fallout Universe. It would be natural to expect that 200 years after the war the world will look more developed than this. Remember Fallout 2. It had it's share of slavers, raiders, tribals... but it also had more developed communities like NCR and Vault City. The society in Fallout 3 seems to be overall nearly completely apathetic towards some cooperation and building of a new world. What caused most people to behave like barbarians? How come that in F2 there are such extremes among communities - some people have degenerated to level of primitive tribes, while others are trying to rebuild prosperous society like NCR?
From what we have seen in all three games, this had to be a really destructive global conflict - ruins are everywhere, no difference between small towns and big cities. But 200 years later is enough time for descendants of thoughtful, intelligent humans of late 21st century, to gather their brains and reach a decent level of developing, promising society. Most of them seem to be trapped in violent nihilism though, no obvious progress has been made, but neither everyone fell to level of primitive tribals... Weird stagnation. Your opinion on this?
entertainer on 30/10/2008 at 16:40
Quote Posted by BR796164
Your opinion on this?
Don't try to search for logic in bethesda's games. It's not there.
Rogue Keeper on 30/10/2008 at 16:51
Sorry but I don't take such cheap attack at Beth as answer. They have delivered a post-apo world which people love when somebody says FALLOUT. Perhaps they didn't have to move the plot so much ahead to the future... Still, with every new Fallout game taking place later than the previous one, the stagnant state of society will be more suspicious.
Matthew on 30/10/2008 at 17:19
And even better, they're starting work on Elder Scrolls 5! I'm expecting Fallout with swords.
mothra on 30/10/2008 at 17:44
new dog, aehm horse armor !
Jason Moyer on 30/10/2008 at 17:53
Quote Posted by BR796164
The society in Fallout 3 seems to be overall nearly completely apathetic towards some cooperation and building of a new world.
War...war never changes...
Phatose on 30/10/2008 at 17:58
Fallout already has swords.
As for the condition...could be a number of things. Most likely due to the local sociology experiments. We know vault 13 got shorted supplies. Don't know exactly what the other vaults experiments were, but we know vault 101 was on 'permanent' lockdown.
If the west coast groupings tending to have settings that induced leaving the vault, while the east coasters tended to be 'stay in' type experiments, then the west would logically come together much faster then the east. And the major 'civilized' settlements in F2 were all either former vaults, or dependent on the local vaults - except maybe Reno, but that ain't exactly a bastion of civilization.
Plus, the east coast probably would've had a higher target priority then the southwest. You blow up LA, you blow up San Francisco, but it's not quite as target rich as the east coast. Perhaps they're further behind because they got nuked harder, and had to wait out the radiation longer.
Scots Taffer on 30/10/2008 at 23:50
Quote Posted by Matthew
And even better, they're starting work on Elder Scrolls 5! I'm expecting Fallout [3] with swords.
Nice.
Renzatic on 31/10/2008 at 00:58
Damn. This game takes for-fucking-hell-damn-ever to install. It's been working on this Windows Live BS for about 5 minutes now.
