Renzatic on 9/8/2016 at 19:29
Wow. Lots of honkies getting all frightened and uppity itt.
Matthew on 9/8/2016 at 20:22
Quote Posted by Medlar
Agree with Renzatic on this. Go after the perp not Facebook, it is surprising what a solicitors letter can accomplish at reasonable cost...
I take issue with the 'reasonable'
Yakoob on 9/8/2016 at 20:42
Quote Posted by Renzatic
It'd be better, and likely more quickly resolved, if Ice were to go after the perpetrator specifically for harassment/libel, rather than try to net Facebook into taking legal responsibility for someone else's actions.
That's a good point actually, weren't there already some cases of people's accounts being shut down for online harassment? dont know what the channels are but it's worth a try.
Renzatic on 9/8/2016 at 21:24
See, Facebook, Twitter, et al. are all caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to situations like this. So long as someone is nominally following their preset rules, they won't lift a single finger against anyone, unless a reported incident is incredibly blatant, or has generated a tremendous amount of backlash. They don't want to create a precedence where they're expected to respond immediately and thoroughly to every single claim of harassment, since it'd basically make them indirectly culpable for the behavior of all their users. Even worse, if they nix User B's account, while ignoring User A for doing the same thing, it introduces the appearance of bias in their moderation, which could stir up big social shitstorm under the proper circumstances.
All things considered, social media outlets are neither civilly nor personally responsible for anything that appears on their site. It's a wide open service. Anyone can post anything they want, so long as it's nothing blatantly criminal, and it follows their TOS. This is why I think going after Facebook directly is a waste of time. It's better to go after the source of the problem itself, since, unlike Facebook, which is merely a host, a person is directly culpable for their own actions.
icemann on 10/8/2016 at 08:47
Sorry for lack of response on the topic.
The account included photos of others beyond just myself, so the person that the guy who created the account used as a name for the account (who herself has had a nervous breakdown over this whole thing) tracked down who one of the mystery photos was of. It turns out that that person was a close family friend of the guy, who she then contacted and let him know about it. That family friend had a look at what was posted and went and blasted the boy + his mother over it, so hopefully the page will be taken down soon.
I don't like to even look at the account due to the stuff he typed under the photos of me. Really disgusting, vile stuff.
I went to the police with printed copies of pages from the profile and was told that I'd need to file an intervention order against the guy. After researching a little further I discovered that that would mean having to go to court against him on the issue which I'd prefer not to do.
So hopefully the family friend will get the page taken down since Facebook wont do anything.
I've tried in the past to get posts by other people removed for hate speech and racism on FB and I've not been successful in any reporting of those. Had 1 "friend" post that "Halal funds terroism" which I reported for hate speech and a day later got a response from FB that it was not hate speech. Must be monkeys working over there.
Medlar on 10/8/2016 at 08:51
Quote Posted by Matthew
I take issue with the 'reasonable'
ALL legal costs tend toward the excessive but solicitors letters can be good value if used sensibly.
Yakoob on 10/8/2016 at 17:28
Haha going to the mother, that's always a failsafe strategy haha ;p And you can sue him in Small Claims (if you're in the US) which fee is cheap (less than $100 iirc) and you basically represent yourself without needing an attorney. The official court summons could be enough to nudge the guy to take it down. Worth a shot.
icemann on 11/8/2016 at 06:50
Sadly I'm not in the US. Shame as I've been an avid watcher of Judge Judy for years. Learned the lingo from there :p.
Matthew on 11/8/2016 at 09:37
Quote Posted by Medlar
ALL legal costs tend toward the excessive but solicitors letters can be good value if used sensibly.
You're breaking my heart here, Med. :(
Medlar on 11/8/2016 at 11:59
I hate to do that to you young fella! However, my advise is free :P