jay pettitt on 12/4/2008 at 00:56
For some reason I'm always highly suspicious of Social Darwinism.
Quote Posted by Ben Gunn
So now Im the glass-eyed dorky teacher's pet while you are the cool girl with the bubble-gum who rolls her eyes and sais wa evah? :D
Thanks, jay, you made me lol. :thumb:
Next time we'll discuss tunics, I promise.
Oh, you misunderstand. I'm not bowing out of this conversation. I'm just unusually moved to express my utter boredom of you. It's a shame as you've clearly some smarts about you, but I just can't be arsed trawling through the endless, tiresome protests to get at it. Can you think of a good reason why I should?
catbarf on 12/4/2008 at 01:12
Quote Posted by jay pettitt
For some reason I'm always highly suspicious of Social Darwinism.
'Leave them and let God/Natural Selection/Whatever sort them out' is a bad idea. But for the purposes of learning, there is nothing better than seeing it operate on a large scale in the past.
Ben Gunn on 12/4/2008 at 02:30
Quote Posted by jay pettitt
Can you think of a good reason why I should?
Nope. Feel free to skip my posts- it's not uncommon for a thread to have some parallel,
seperate discussions. :angel:
As a last (hopefully) side-note remark I do sincerely want to encourage you to try and anchor your views on a solid ground, for the sake of your future debates. Supposedly thats what seperate us, atheists, from ID supporters.
GL
;)
Nicker on 12/4/2008 at 18:00
Thanks Benn. Sage words from the guy who most embodies verbal restraint, semantic clarity, compassion, humility and intellectual honesty. TTLG is truly blessed.
Spaztick on 13/4/2008 at 07:21
TTLGers are equal to the general public in that no matter where I go I always get this image of a bunch of chimps slinging shit at each other. Does anyone remember the name of an article about how you can never escape stupidity no matter where you go? It also stated that there's this spread of stupidity within ~25% of the population in any group.
demagogue on 13/4/2008 at 08:10
If you want the Darwinian explanation for that, to give it a "positive" spin, it's because (I've read) communities which make demands on the intellgence of all discussion eventually become so insular and elitist that they end up disintegrating. And what you have left are the most open ones, for better or worse. Dumb discussions provoke discussion, and nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd. It's the price we pay.
(For balance, I should mention a competing theory that stupidity inexplicably appears everywhere because that's how the universe was designed.)
Ben Gunn on 13/4/2008 at 10:08
Quote Posted by Spaztick
TTLGers are equal to the general public in that no matter where I go I always get this image of a bunch of chimps slinging shit at each other. Does anyone remember the name of an article about how you can never escape stupidity no matter where you go? It also stated that there's this spread of stupidity within ~25% of the population in any group.
Though your shit was slinged in a general direction and everyone got only a few droplets, you do realize that by that you just counted yourself amongst us, chimps. Welcome aboard, mate. :)
Chade on 13/4/2008 at 11:13
And thus we came to realize that we are all Spaztick.
catbarf on 13/4/2008 at 13:25
Quote Posted by demagogue
If you want the Darwinian explanation for that, to give it a "positive" spin, it's because (I've read) communities which make demands on the intellgence of all discussion eventually become so insular and elitist that they end up disintegrating. And what you have left are the most open ones, for better or worse. Dumb discussions provoke discussion, and nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd. It's the price we pay.
Memetics then supports this with the spread of the concepts that encourage such stupidity.
Koki on 13/4/2008 at 15:07
Quote Posted by catbarf
'Leave them and let God/Natural Selection/Whatever sort them out' is a bad idea.
I think it's pretty damn excellent idea.