bob_doe_nz on 20/5/2019 at 10:56
Thank fuck I made dessert. I ate it after because I was so salty from the disappointment.
icemann on 20/5/2019 at 13:38
I thought the finale was alright, though a bit boring towards the end.
Daenerys died like a character in a stage production though. I nearly laughed at that bit. She died within a second of being stabbed. Not exactly fitting for her character IMO. They could at least could have had her go down in a fight.
With the "A Song of Ice and Fire" bit, were they poking fun at all the people complaining about the final season?
Have to say, I was very surprised on who became the new king.
henke on 20/5/2019 at 14:20
LALALALALA DONT TELL ME
I'm about to watched the final episode and I feel like I've already had it spoiled for me because the internet is incapable of shutting the fuck up for even 24 hours.
I know #1: we should pity Daenerys, for some reason
and #2: there's a grand council
So I guess a bunch of the remaining good guys team up and defeat Daenerys and then form a grand council to rule Westeros?
edit: yeah, pretty much. I don't mind tho. I liked it! Overall I enjoyed this final season, which I'm well aware is the wrong opinion to have on the internet, but whatevs. :cool:
demagogue on 20/5/2019 at 14:29
I uh... Well mixed and shifting emotions.
Ok, I can live with this start...
Potential greatness?
Hmm ... ok well I can live with this at least...
I guess...
Well this is kind of stupid...
Ok...
I guess I can live with this.
Some of these last scenes are quite good.
I mean I guess it's effectively over now.
And I'll have to live with this.
You're not making it easy...
Well now it's just a glorified montage.
Alright. So it goes.
Cheers everybody and thanks for the fish.
This was probably the weakest season all & all, but the actual outcome for most things was more or less fitting and I can't complain. There's this trend of re-cutting these final episodes. I think someone even posted an example in this thread. There's enough material in this season for a really good cut that wraps everything up I think. The story is all there more or less, and like I said, some of the scenes were done very well. I'm thinking if I ever do a marathon re-watch of all of this, I can look forward to it if I knew I could finish off with a good recut of this last season. So that's something.
Edit: I guess I can venture some opinions. [spoiler]Does it make sense to have a king whose own house isn't part of the kingdom? I don't know how that's going to work out. Also Bran has been effectively absent this whole season. For that matter he's still absent even as king. What does he have, like 4 lines as the central character in the whole show now, and even those are still cryptic and I'm not sure particularly practical.... (Also it was suspiciously easy for all the lords to just agree on a king. Couldn't they have just done that from the start & saved everybody a lot of trouble? It's the loyalty of the armies that mattered up unti now, and that was kind of handwaved away here.)
All that said, I like the idea of each living Stark child getting the ending that basically fits them.
I liked the treatment of Jamie this season, and his write up in the annals was a nice epitaph for what turned out to be the most compelling character. Tyrion, who had been the most compelling character basically until he joined Dany, was a shadow of what he's been.
I noticed it ended in the same place that it started, in the grove north of the wall. And of course with Jon, who is the beating heart of the show. I don't think he got exactly the treatment he deserved these last few episodes. But what actually happened for him all seems more or less fitting. It's a weird ending since it's not really clear what anything means now... There's no great existential threat or grand fate... Just lots of snow and time to think left now.[/spoiler]
Gryzemuis on 21/5/2019 at 11:07
One surprising thing is how now slowly stories come out of how many of the actors and actresses were very disappointed with the story arc of their characters. Some of them have even complained with Dave and Dan. Or tried to discuss it. The story we hear from all these people seems to be constant: Dave and Dan listened to them, and then told them politely to fuck off. It seems everybody was aware this season was gonna be one big clusterfuck. Except Dave and Dan themselves.
Wouldn't it be fun if Disney would tell them: "We've reconsidered, and we don't want to you to do Star Wars any more. Here's some money, and now fuck off". And then they never get another job in the industry anymore. :) Unlikely to happen, because I am sure there are some greedy bastards somewhere who think those two bastards can make them some money, regardless of the quality of their product.
Renault on 21/5/2019 at 14:57
In all fairness, I'm sure if the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be much different. In other words, if the showrunners constantly came up to some of the actors and told them they weren't acting out the script well, I'm sure the actors wouldn't be too pleased. No one wants to be told they aren't doing their job properly.
Despite what dema said though, I thought the biggest disappointment this season was Jamie. I'm wondering what was the whole point of his "redemption" arc was, something that's been building for several seasons, and then ended with a huge flop. Sure, he killed a few wights, and slept with Brianne (after getting wasted), but so what. It all meant nothing in the end when he went crawling back to Cersei.
froghawk on 21/5/2019 at 17:44
Benioff wrote Wolverine Origins and Troy. 'Nuff said.
SubJeff on 21/5/2019 at 23:00
Quote Posted by henke
I liked it! Overall I enjoyed this final season, which I'm well aware is the wrong opinion to have on the internet, but whatevs. :cool:
I did too.
It was the most GoT ending ever. It disappointed so many people, it did what it did. That was great, just like killing off Ned Stark in the first season was a big shock, and then the Red Wedding and so on.
Does it matter how many lines a character had???
Bran is the most powerful person alive at this point, so Sanza being Queen of The North and him not having a house is important exactly how?
The moaning I've been reading is all about something people expected. Oh, this character's story arc wasn't quiteGUESS WHAT ITS GoT PEOPLE DIE AND IT DOESNT NEED TO BE A MASTURBATORY BUILD UP OR EPIC EVENT WHAT SHOW HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN WATCHING ALL THESE YEARS YOU GIGANTIC FORMULAIC LOVING BORE OF A NERD*.
*Not directed at anyone here btw, just my feelings about the general whining all over the internet.
