demagogue on 18/4/2011 at 23:48
Man, if we could watch tv shows off the internet, I could get on my computer and watch tv
all day long! All I'd need is an electric outlet and a wireless signal and BAM ... t.v. at any time of the day. That'd really be something.
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OTOH they've condensed things way too much for my taste, and you hardly get any sense at all of the characters involved. Quick, broad strokes rather than careful detailing.
That's hard to reconcile with the biggest criticism being too many strands as it is, though.
I thought they went an okay way with it, given that I don't know they could have made it into a show at all without cutting that much. And even if you question how
much they condensed, I think one has to admit they picked the right material to really crystallize it.
Also even cutting as much as they did they only got 80 pages into an 800 page book that was mostly exposition. If they lingered more on each scene, it'd take foreeeever to get on with it. That isn't to say I don't sympathize with your point, since I'd liked to have seen them linger on a lot of the scenes too, but I see it as the nature of the beast they're taming, and they're doing it as well as I could hope for.
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The actress playing Daenerys sucks. It's not Sofia Coppola levels of badness, she's just wooden. Pretty though.
In the book she's practically in shell-shock through all of that, so I think they captured what they were going for, like it's all going on around her and she's just observing it, spaced out.
Mr.Duck on 19/4/2011 at 16:29
I want to read the books (never have, but I've heard a lot about'em), but so far, I loved the pilot.
Also, for those peeps wanting to see series/movies free and online I have a nice page, it's in Spanish (the menus and such), but the content itself is in English (dunno if it's against the forum's rules, so PM for the link).
Also....that sword....man....could probably cut your mom's tits from here thru the weekend....shit.
the_grip on 25/4/2011 at 18:45
Managed to catch the first episode... in terms of plot and story, it is fun to watch. The sex is stupid, however. It has the same feel of a boob cruise where they want to rub it in your face. Don't get me wrong... that can be good when that is what you are going for.
The books have the sex, sure, but the first episode seem to emphasize sex over substance... very annoying. I'm trying to hook my wife into this... she hasn't read the books as I have, and she thought the sex was mostly obnoxious and distracting. The only real scene that needed to be in there was the most shocking one, of course, at the end.
How does the second episode stack up to the first?
SubJeff on 25/4/2011 at 19:54
The second episode is less well contained but then it's not an introduction so that's fine. It has some slightly odd focus that for the sake of the show I hope makes sense later on. The webs are being further spun and some petty power play is coming out. I can see that there are a lot of unlikeable characters already and lots that will do unreasonable/bastard things in order to appease others/keep face.
redface on 25/4/2011 at 21:34
I haven't read the books or anything by Martin and quite liked the first 2 episodes. A bit weak in places, like the whole laughable Dothraki storyline (so far), but still entertaining. I take it this will be much more about politics than standard fantasy stuff, right?
Now if only they made The Malazan Book of the Fallen as well. That would be something!
fett on 25/4/2011 at 23:01
Yeah - almost like West Wing in Westeros. And the Dothraki storyline starts out horrible and ends up being the most kick-ass thing in the whole series - let it percolate.
PeeperStorm on 27/4/2011 at 00:38
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I can see that there are a lot of unlikeable characters already and lots that will do unreasonable/bastard things in order to appease others/keep face.
To quote Bachman Turner Overdrive, you ain't seen n-n-n-nothing yet.
Scots Taffer on 28/4/2011 at 00:38
Time to start re-reading :(
the_grip on 3/5/2011 at 20:16
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Time to start re-reading :(
I've tried to start reading again but it is damn hard to break back into these books for some reason. I'm finding the HBO series does an decent job of refreshing my memory, although GoT has always remained pretty fresh I guess.
