RocketMan on 26/2/2009 at 17:07
Quote Posted by cosmicnut
You would never see an EM pulse as the waves are invisible to the naked eye.
Of course if they waves were held in a field, the field may give off visible light.
How do you hold EM waves in a field?
Enchantermon on 27/2/2009 at 03:03
Quote Posted by RocketMan
I've sometimes wondered to myself, if the nervous system is an electrical system, then one might think of nerves as conductors, though non-metalic. If that's the case I wonder if a sufficiently strong EM field would cause any kind of electrical activity in the body that might result in a spasm, seizure, tingle or something else.
I actually wondered about that when I read this topic. The brain is another example of electricity in the human body.
I would come to the same conclusion; that a particularly strong EM field would cause some kind of disruption, even if it's only minor. This is why research is being done on whether or not the electromagnetic fields generated by cell phones can have a detrimental effect the brain.
catbarf on 2/3/2009 at 16:32
Quote Posted by RocketMan
There's no such thing as a ball of electricity. However an EM field will induce current in any conductor so you might think of it as a ball of electricity in the basic sense that whatever the field intersects becomes alive with electrical transients. I've sometimes wondered to myself, if the nervous system is an electrical system, then one might think of nerves as conductors, though non-metalic. If that's the case I wonder if a sufficiently strong EM field would cause any kind of electrical activity in the body that might result in a spasm, seizure, tingle or something else.
A nuclear detonation causes an EMP effect when detonated. The US military's done some investigation into building a nuclear device that would detonate in mid-air with almost no explosive force or radioactive fallout, but would fry electronics within a twenty-mile radius. I don't think 'Melts your brain' was listed in the results.
Quote Posted by cosmicnut
You would never see an EM pulse as the waves are invisible to the naked eye.
Of course if they waves were held in a field, the field may give off visible light.
On a related note, you wouldn't see a laser.
polytourist97 on 2/3/2009 at 16:54
Quote Posted by catbarf
I know that if I relied on the EMP rifle I'd be scared of Rumblers...
That's what the wrench is for.
Displacer on 2/3/2009 at 18:37
An EMP is nothing more than a super strong magnetic pulse, why they put Electro in there I have no idea. When you cut a conductor with a magnetic field the result is electricity generated in that conductor. This is the basis for all electricity generated in our world. Now the amount of electricity generated in the conductor is proportional to the strength of the magnetic field, an EMP burst will generate so much electricity in the conductors of any electronic device that it will melt said conductors and burn out anything connected to them.
Human electricity is not generated the same way, nerves use sodium-potassium pumps to move energy along their paths, so they are not prone to an EMP burst.
jtr7 on 2/3/2009 at 18:49
It helps that the metals in our bodies are not clumped together to melt or burn up, even though we do make great lightning rods.:p
Jenesis on 3/3/2009 at 00:32
I also am a big fan of the EMP rifle. All those points in Energy aren't wasted, as they (assuming I remember correctly, I haven't actually played SS2 in years) increase the damage you do with the laser pistol and rapier, and allow you to get a lot more charge into the pistol. Sure, you need a backup weapon with the EMP rifle, but since you've put all those points into Energy, the laser pistol is a viable option. You don't really need any points in Exotic if you don't want, and you can either forego Heavy completely or just get one point so that you can get some use out of the grenades you find lying around. As far as I remember, I tended to finish the game with Standard 6 and Energy 6, turning me into an unstoppable powerhouse of destruction.
RocketMan on 3/3/2009 at 02:01
Quote Posted by Displacer
An EMP is nothing more than a super strong magnetic pulse, why they put Electro in there I have no idea. When you cut a conductor with a magnetic field the result is electricity generated in that conductor. This is the basis for all electricity generated in our world. Now the amount of electricity generated in the conductor is proportional to the strength of the magnetic field, an EMP burst will generate so much electricity in the conductors of any electronic device that it will melt said conductors and burn out anything connected to them.
Human electricity is not generated the same way, nerves use sodium-potassium pumps to move energy along their paths, so they are not prone to an EMP burst.
Are you saying that ions move around in our bodies via fluid transport instead of loose valence electrons moving via potential? That's pretty cool, I always thought it was more like wires. I'm not 100% sure of the limitations of faraday's laws but it seems to me that induction can take place in any conductor, even if it is not a solid material and I don't think it has to be metallic either. Our sun is a fluid system and the convection currents/rotation of the fluid in the sun sets up very strong magnetic fields.
The "electro" part of the EM term is simply there to remind us that an EM field consists of orthogonal waves of electical and magnetic energy. I've never been able to visualize what that means however ...
D'Arcy on 3/3/2009 at 10:21
Quote Posted by Jenesis
I tended to finish the game with Standard 6 and Energy 6, turning me into an unstoppable powerhouse of destruction.
Same here. I normally use the EMP and the Rapier throughout most of the game, then switch to the AR in the BOTM.
Enchantermon on 4/3/2009 at 12:46
Quote Posted by Displacer
Human electricity is not generated the same way, nerves use sodium-potassium pumps to move energy along their paths, so they are not prone to an EMP burst.
So (just to make sure I understand what you're saying) because the EMP burst can't affect our bodies' organic conductors, then the result is no disruption of our bodies' electricity? Interesting.
