Azaran on 4/7/2022 at 18:25
Quote Posted by downwinder
people really care about voice that much? if so just use Stephen Russel from first 2 games,problem solved
SR's voice is essential, iconic
downwinder on 4/7/2022 at 21:49
most all the people who did voices in fan missions of garrett were good enough for me,i did not feel the mission was less with a voice that was a bit different/completely different
game play trumps voice acting
textures trump voice acting
voice acting trumps ??? in thief
so voice is not a key part of fan mission for me
and yes i wont go listen to a guy who mimics someone else voice and get excited about it
a bigger issues is movement in thief 3 that should still be fixed/made into newdark thief 2 engine
never mentioning thief 2014 reboot,so jenavear is a bird ,shakes my head and how did basso live for hundreds of years?
so man more important things to clean up with past thief mistakes
Azaran on 4/7/2022 at 22:02
Quote Posted by downwinder
never mentioning thief 2014 reboot,so jenavear is a bird ,shakes my head and how did basso live for hundreds of years?
New Basso, new Garrett.
Or maybe the real Basso od'd on healing potions and stopped aging
Komag on 4/7/2022 at 23:16
What games have we heard Stephen Russell in that are more recent? He did some fun thiefy stuff in Skyrim, but that is over 10 years old now, anything more recent that I might be able to try?
EDIT - I see he is the robot detective in Fallout 4 (I remember really liking that guy), and Corvo in Dishonored 2 (2016) (I haven't played that), so those are somewhat recent.
Darkness_Falls on 5/7/2022 at 05:59
Quote Posted by downwinder
most all the people who did voices in fan missions of garrett were good enough for me,i did not feel the mission was less with a voice that was a bit different/completely different
To each his or her own
Quote Posted by downwinder
game play trumps voice acting
I never said it didn't. When you can have the Thief total package, wouldn't you strive for that? Anyone could 'voice act'. Personally, I prefer to hear "Garrett" when I play Thief or as close to "Garrett" as possible so it doesn't feel like I'm playing a fan mission or an entirely different character/person.
Quote Posted by downwinder
textures trump voice acting
And chocolates trump broccoli. Look, I realize voice acting is probably rock bottom on your list of priorities, and the nuance in levels of quality are either imperceptible to you or you don't care. But if it's so
not important, what is the harm in getting someone I'm guessing the vast majority would appreciate and enjoy because they're hearing good 'ole "Garrett"? Do you think that if they get a voice actor that actually sounds like Garrett the gameplay and texture quality are all the sudden going to tank? Sorry, I just don't get your logic. If you're not familiar with game development, I understand. But if that's the case, please consider leaving the actual development to the developers. If Thief IP gets in the right hands, they'll know how to deliver good voice acting, including a Garrett voice actor that some or a lot of us can appreciate, and also be able to deliver a good game you'll like. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Getting Stephen Russell or a Garrett-like voice actor isn't going to blow the multi-million dollar budget. It's not like they're going to hire Robert Downey, Jr. to voice Garrett and use his likeness or anything, which
would blow the budget unless he's a mega Thief fan and donates his time.
Quote Posted by downwinder
so voice is not a key part of fan mission for me
That's good. For me, I hear the 'could be a lot better' voice acting in many fan missions. And it's the main (possibly only) thing that ruins the immersion for me in The Dark Mod, especially when guards/NPCs become alert. I've been hoping for some voice acting updates/replacements to the base game-set for years.
Quote Posted by downwinder
a bigger issues is movement in thief 3 that should still be fixed/made into newdark thief 2 engine
I don't really understand what you're saying, but again, good quality voice acting or an actor who sounds quite like Garrett all the sudden means that the Animation team on a new Thief game won't be able to implement good movements? Or somehow using Stephen Russell in TDS impaired Ion Storm Austin so much that animations weren't to your liking? I'm willing to bet there was no correlation between the two.
Quote Posted by downwinder
never mentioning thief 2014 reboot,so jenavear is a bird ,shakes my head and how did basso live for hundreds of years?
I'm pretty sure the game explains this through texts, etc. I recommend playing the game again or Google-searching the plot and keeping an open mind. Did them hiring a decent voice actor cause this mult-hundred year story calamity you speak of, though? I really doubt it
Quote Posted by downwinder
so man more important things to clean up with past thief mistakes
Right, so if they hire me or you to voice Garrett that will allow them to fix all the issues. Got it ;)
Quote Posted by Komag
What games have we heard Stephen Russell in that are more recent?
Yep! You got a couple of them.
Underworld Ascendant (2018) was a big one, too... had many speaking lines.
Stephen Russell's IMDb: (
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1592197/) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1592197/
zomfg1234 on 8/7/2022 at 21:46
@Darkness_Falls, I don't even know why you put so much time and effort into replying to downwinder. He doesn't put effort into his own posts, yet alone thoughts for that matter. Do we really have to explain basic logic?
downwinder on 8/7/2022 at 22:01
my lack of effort don't mean i don't believe what i say,its my view,and if others have a view,its there view
great name zomfg1234,nice sleeper/back up account/ohh yes i know its probaly on a vpn for protection :)
zomfg1234 on 8/7/2022 at 22:13
Quote Posted by downwinder
my lack of effort don't mean i don't believe what i say,its my view,and if others have a view,its there view
great name zomfg1234,nice sleeper/back up account/ohh yes i know its probaly on a vpn for protection :)
If you don't put effort into representing your views, then nobody will see them as worth considering in the first place, that you should know.
Also thanks for the compliment, I really took my time to come up with such an epic name.
downwinder on 9/7/2022 at 03:33
i think my point was clear i find voice to be one of the lesser things needed in a fan mission compared to story line , game play and assets in fan missions
for example ,conal voice is amazing,zaya voice in t2x was great,etc
not having a Garrett voice did not lessen any fan mission i ever played if anything it made it better,as it gave diversity while playing
also it seems a lot of the more recent Garrett voice seem to use him in a more comedy way when i feel Garrett is dead serious after all he has been through
Darkness_Falls on 12/7/2022 at 06:37
Quote Posted by zomfg1234
@Darkness_Falls, I don't even know why you put so much time and effort into replying to downwinder. He doesn't put effort into his own posts, yet alone thoughts for that matter. Do we really have to explain basic logic?
Yeah, that was going to be my last time putting much effort into a response. I'm not on this forum much, so wouldn't know if I was encountering typical or not. Oh well, it is what it is. We both said what we had to say and I've pretty much moved on