Estel Randir on 8/5/2022 at 07:08
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
You have no idea what you're talking about. There is no connection between the bitness of a game's executable and the screen resolution it can run at, nor how much it can be modded.
I am talking about texture resolution combined with content quantity. If you actually knew anything, you would know that x32 is very limited in it's ability to handle extreme detail (ultra high resolution textures) before it runs out of memory and crashes. x64 has (for modern purposes) nearly unlimited memory resources. Which allows for the possibility of extremely large resolution textures combined with the possibility of extreme amount of content in fan missions at the same time. Anyone who has spent anytime modding games such as Oblivion would understand this. But your arrogant & too busy wanting to "call someone out", so I do not expect you do.
ahoymehearties on 30/5/2022 at 19:36
As someone who just burned out of the game industry after seeing every company I ever wanted to work for be subsumed by more and more massive corporations, god, please, let there never be another official Thief game. It would have *so* many game modes, daily events, and open-world outsource filler. I don't think a big budget Thief is a safe enough bet at this kind of business growth speed, anyway.
I think they'd definitely up the snark for Garrett again, because that's in for modern media. That's about all I'd look forward to.
I'm still hoping someone super smart (not me) makes the real VR spiritual successor to put me right back in high school!
zomfg1234 on 28/6/2022 at 16:47
I'm more of the opinion that Thief 2014 tarnished the brand in a lot of ways and it would have been better to not have it at all. "Luckily" it was such a flop that I'm sure it will make anyone think twice before pursuing that path, so it's more likely we'll get something more old-school, if we do get anything.
But realistically... I don't think we're going to get anything. Stephen Russell is getting old and won't reprise the role of Garrett, it's just unlikely. Making a "proper" Thief game would require actually caring about things like sound propagation, immersive level design, stellar writing, strong artistic themes, and so on, basically what the first two Thief games were praised for. That doesn't exist in games anymore, not with the corporate culture that has infested anything and everything. The only possible way something really good could come out of it is when you give full creative control to someone who's experienced enough to be a lead director and also understands Thief. Giving people resources to build proper sound design, and the rest. All the effort for an already niche genre. Can you really imagine that happening? Nah. Thief is a two games series + fan missions.
New Horizon on 28/6/2022 at 19:45
Quote Posted by zomfg1234
I'm more of the opinion that Thief 2014 tarnished the brand in a lot of ways and it would have been better to not have it at all. "Luckily" it was such a flop that I'm sure it will make anyone think twice before pursuing that path, so it's more likely we'll get something more old-school, if we do get anything.
But realistically... I don't think we're going to get anything. Stephen Russell is getting old and won't reprise the role of Garrett, it's just unlikely.
I can't remember, did Stephen say he would no longer reprise the role of Garrett? He was initially brought in for Thief 2014 and he did voice over for a Trailer before being replaced.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZDHZyThW1M)
I think if the right project came along he would bring Garrett to life one more time.
zomfg1234 on 28/6/2022 at 21:25
What I meant is, it will take so much time to make an actual Thief game, by that point Mr. Russell will be too old to bring that energy (unless it's old man Garrett), or dead. If they're working on it right this moment, they could bring him on board, for sure. Something tells me they're not and won't really do anything with it for a longer while. I'd be delighted to be wrong though.
Renault on 28/6/2022 at 21:39
I love Stephen Russell, but there's no reason they can't make a good Thief game using a different main character and/or voice actor. Of all the things Teef did wrong, that was probably near the bottom of the list. Game mechanics and world building are what they should focus on.
zomfg1234 on 28/6/2022 at 22:27
Actually I agree, the VA in Teef did a good job, he was competent. It's easy to forget that it's not just the voice and delivery, but also how it's written, the writing wasn't good but the voice acting itself was good for the material. At the same time it's hard to imagine Thief without Garrett, he really is a selling point on his own.
downwinder on 29/6/2022 at 00:07
there is a company that focuses on world building "cyan" makers of myst/riven/etc but there games also lack something but in a different way then teeeeeeeeeeeef
if they can do a throw back megaman and its a hit
then they can take new dark engine,and make a deep and complexing story where the game play is already proven so they just can build the build to cater to garrett a great test would for then to redo thief 3 in newdark 100% and prove the concept,ofcouse adding swimming,rope/vine arrows/etc
then tackle Thief 4 post thief 3 storyline
here is another funny thing there use to be a game called prey where you an american Indian guy in a bar at start amazing game,but guess what they decided to redo game in space same name but re-imagined,i felt it was a bad move,they could have started it out as a brand new franchise,my point is the old prey was amazing,remake was good,but not same game
thief reboot was like that,i just hope they do the actual game of thief right,i dont even mind if they stream green light it,as it would be a smaller fan base,not like we would ever get a disk in a box
New Horizon on 29/6/2022 at 13:51
Quote Posted by downwinder
there is a company that focuses on world building "cyan" makers of myst/riven/etc but there games also lack something but in a different way then teeeeeeeeeeeef
if they can do a throw back megaman and its a hit
then they can take new dark engine,and make a deep and complexing story where the game play is already proven so they just can build the build to cater to garrett a great test would for then to redo thief 3 in newdark 100% and prove the concept,ofcouse adding swimming,rope/vine arrows/etc
then tackle Thief 4 post thief 3 storyline
here is another funny thing there use to be a game called prey where you an american Indian guy in a bar at start amazing game,but guess what they decided to redo game in space same name but re-imagined,i felt it was a bad move,they could have started it out as a brand new franchise,my point is the old prey was amazing,remake was good,but not same game
thief reboot was like that,i just hope they do the actual game of thief right,i dont even mind if they stream green light it,as it would be a smaller fan base,not like we would ever get a disk in a box
Yes, I've been saying the same thing for awhile now. Using New Dark would be an awesome way to do it. Enough time has passed that we're in an age where the look of the original games is actually a stylistic choice now. The game doesn't need to look cutting edge and if anything, the look of the original games is part of what made it work in the first place. Would be amazing if some of the original creators could band together one last time on New Dark and crank out something special.
Azaran on 29/6/2022 at 18:27
It's a long shot, but we now have sound AI that can replicate a person's voice. Not sure if it's available to the public yet, but you can enter a few sound files from a person's voice, and it will replicate it. You can technically input SR's voice and make him say whatever text you input. Not sure how the inflection and tone is though
