fett on 24/6/2008 at 15:42
I guess the main thing I didn't mention in my previous post is my love of post-glam metal. This is as good a place to come of the closet as any. I'm talking specifically about a few bands that I HATED in the 80's: Warrant, Motley Crue, Winger, Posion, etc. The very definition of "hair metal" and everything that was wrong with 80's music. Self-indulgent, shallow bullshit. I don't own anything by these bands prior to 1991.
Here's what happened:
After the Seattle bands killed hair-metal, and I got sick of "alternative" stuff, a friend lent me a Motley Crue CD - the only one they did with a different singer (Jon Corabi - around '93-95ish?). It sounded nothing like 80's music, or even Motley Crue for that matter - I was astounded and confused. These guys could actually play, the lyrics were really good 90% of the time, and the songwriting was fabulous, dirty, and raw. Digging deeper I discovered that a lot of those hair-bands, no longer able to survive on image alone, had to actually go back and start writing songs. Though most of their releases post-'91 were ignored, it's some of the best hard rock stuff I've ever heard. Not to mention the musicianship will give you wet dreams.
If you want to sully your ears with this stuff, I'd highly recommend the self-titled Crue album, Winger's "Pull", Posion's "Native Tongue" (featuring blues god Ritchie Kotzen), Extreme's "Waiting for the Punchline", and Warrant's "Ultraphobic" and "Belly to Belly". Everyone thinks I'm full of shit about this until they think they're listening to the newest Tool single and I tell them it's Warrant. Seriously. Also if you like punk, check out Skid Row's "Sub-human." You'll thank me later.
I'll be at the bike rack later if you want to kick my ass. :sweat:
Kolya on 24/6/2008 at 19:33
Yeah, like I'm going through a pile of unnamed youtube links on the premise they all suck...
Watch and learn: Here's a picture showing an (
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4116/wronggn0.jpg) attractively dirty twen shouting, while some lame photoshop effect gives the impression of black ribbons shooting out of her mouth. The word "wrong" is written all over it.
demagogue on 25/6/2008 at 07:18
Inline Image:
http://i25.tinypic.com/205a7g0.gif YouTube tip #2: Make a Playlist
"When you have a collection of YouTube videos you want to show off, go into your YouTube profile and create a new playlist, then go video by video and click "add to X playlist", then post one link to the whole playlist and people can immediately see everything on it and watch it from start to finish without doing anything else, or skip to only the ones they want to see, whatever they want..." Edit: BTW, these are hilarious and deserve a playlist to get the whole flow.
...................
On topic, there was a moment for me when I started to think about movies and books and music less in terms of my "personal expression" and more in terms of cultural literacy ... and after that I started looking at the big genres on their own terms and tried to absorb myself in them and try to think about them like, what would somebody that's into this kind of way of life think about what this song just did ... sort of cultural voyerism, but we're talking about a cultural product for (anymore) a cultureless world, so I don't mind. Vivian's probably right that it's normal anymore, but at least I like to be open about that.
The music I usually end up not liking is when it doesn't invite any reflection at all, I mean nothing, even among its target fans. I especially like music that's breaking out of its own boundaries on its own terms ... like at the start of punk or the nascent alt days (1989-1994), or the metal backlash fett was talking about in the same period... (btw, on that note, I tend to think rushes of creativity and innovation come more in periods across genres as opposed to genres across periods ... just a theory, though.)
But even some pure pop music can touch me when it's right on ... I was noticing that just a while ago listening to Crowded House's
Something so Strong, so poppy, the (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXArBZItqGc) video was pure cheese, but its pop sensibility was right on, so catchy it's almost timeless.
Rogue Keeper on 25/6/2008 at 07:18
Kolya, you missed a good laugh!
Kolya on 25/6/2008 at 11:37
Only if a youtube search for "worst video" is what makes you laughing. But this thread is about music you actually like.
So I used to listen to (
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=aCSgJNXKAvY) Life of Agony a lot when that album came out. I'm not really embarrassed about it, as I'm not easily embarrassed (about music). But I wouldn't play this song at a party either.
Unless the people are right. \m/:devil:\m/
Rogue Keeper on 25/6/2008 at 12:31
Yes, it DOES. They're so BAD they're actually hilarious in their own perverted way! They make me think about the sense of humanity. :D
Ok, but if you want to know what I seriously like... Experimental ambient noise like 20 minute recording of humming refrigerator mixed with babies crying.
This and Borat.
Duncan on 25/6/2008 at 13:27
I suppose this is as good a time as any to say that i still listen to GWAR. I've copped a lot of shit over that, but i actually enjoy their music. The show is just a bonus. A nice little package. But having said that my tastes vary greatly. I do enjoy a lot of hard stuff (though i have lost track and todays bands), but then play me a song with an awesome fiddler and i'll be memorized. Especially the "beach scene" found in the score for Queen of the Damned.
SubJeff on 25/6/2008 at 14:01
Ok I take it back. There are some things that really are just too much. :p
Tocky on 25/6/2008 at 17:13
Thanks for the heads up on the queen of the damned Duncan. I guess you know of Blue Octobers fiddler? Try thier "PRN". I feel the same about that guy as I do Maeh Reid from Celtic Chicks. Well... not exactly. You might try the "Songs from the Mountain" CD that had a lot of the fiddling from the "Cold Mountain" movie on it.
I have a bud who likes Enya. I don't know what to do except smile sickly and tell him I'll be waiting right here when he gets back from electroshock. Weird part is that he is a lot like RBJ otherwise, even down to going crazy rolling in women after his divorce.
I guess I might be embarressed if a little old lady walked up while I had "Wynonas Big Brown Beaver" by Primus going at full blast.