Early New Vegas previews popping up. - by Ostriig
Martek on 10/6/2010 at 11:05
Quote Posted by Yakoob
Jesus Christ people get over steam already, as far as DRM goes, it's actually one of the least intrusive ones that actually provides a ton of useful features as a bonus, for both gamers and developers.
It may be "one of the least intrusive ones" NOW, but this *is* a forum with plenty of members that like to play older games *in the future* and I am personally not of a positive feeling that it will be around for that "10 or 15 years down the road" time when I want to play a title I piurchased.
People like to tout "advantages" that to me a solutions to problems I don't have.
Using that article ((
http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/19053)) as a base:
Like not having to "put the disc in the drive". Fallout 3 (and BILLIONS of other games) "allow" me to play without "putting the disc in the drive", and it/they does not require Steam or even GFWL to provide that feature.
Or, 'you can install the game on as many systems as you want (with no restrictions!)". Really a major "non-solution" to me. I don't want to be able to install FO3 "everywhere". Just on the PC I am playing it on. Then 3 years from now an some other PC when I replay it and have a newer PC by then. Then again, once, maybe 7 years from now (on some other even newer PC)... , etc. I don't rush around in a frenzy to 50 other frenzied player's homes needed to rush install it over the big intarnet while drooling over the keyboard. The ability to install it on craploads of PC's "today" is of no value to me. The "benefit" of an install being stored on their "cloud" is very, very minor and heavily outweighed by the bullshit surrounding it.
"cloud storage of user preferences and so on". Oh wow! Now I don't need to take a minute after I install the game to set up my keyboard and other game preferences? Instead, they "control" my access to my preferences (couched in "user-friendly" terms) and can chose (like, who is it, Ubisoft?) later to "notch that up" to then "require" online saves (and hey, they are doing us a BIG FAVOR if they do that, right? NOT).
Basically I don't need that type of "Big Brother" bloatware on my systems. How nice for many others that they don't mind (and even actually enjoy) the "poison pill" it represents.
If I am lucky, there will be a "bypass" for that Steam crap (much like FO3 can "bypass" GFWL). If that happens I may purchase it. But looks like it isn't a "day one" purchase for me anymore.
JMO
Matthew on 10/6/2010 at 11:15
Oh in the name of God, let's not fag this thread up with the pro- / anti-Steam debate, please.
Sulphur on 10/6/2010 at 16:43
Steam or no Steam, I'm buying it. I don't give a fuck in all honesty. I just find that quote to be slightly disingenuous about the internet connectivity requirement.
If anyone wants to discuss the finer points about Steam, its DRM, and internet connection requirements, then for the love of fuck start a thread on it so I can ignore it.
Matthew on 10/6/2010 at 16:50
Quote Posted by Sulphur
If anyone wants to discuss the finer points about Steam, its DRM, and internet connection requirements, then for the love of fuck go read the old multi-page thread on it so we can all can ignore it.
Fixed that for you.
Sulphur on 10/6/2010 at 17:03
Oh, yes. That thread. Erg. The memories. The cold, unbidden memories. How many lives were lost in trying to keep that thread sane and contained I can not recall, but surely that number is beyond counting. It might even lie in the jizzillions. (I do know that I tried to jizz quite a few people back there.)
steo on 10/6/2010 at 21:13
great, now i'll just have to pirate the game because valve put ads in cs
Yakoob on 11/6/2010 at 04:41
i was gonna reply to the steam post but Matthew's right. fuck it.
Volitions Advocate on 11/6/2010 at 05:37
Looks like you can pre-order it on Steam now.
Koki on 11/6/2010 at 09:36
BUT... STEAM IS A COMMUNITY AND CONTENT DELIVERY PLATFORM NOT TEH DRMS?!1/
