Myoldnamebroke on 24/5/2006 at 18:51
What you've quoted me saying there is in direct response to fett. I started off on the other 'side' (as much as drawing crude camps is daft) to Orb Weaver, please don't lump me in with him.
Printer's Devil on 24/5/2006 at 19:35
Quote Posted by AR Master
Oh boy! Smug elitist
pseudo intellectualism "well i'm rational and logical and you're all just emotional therefore vis as vis ergo i win" AND pedophillia!
What a wild ride this will be
Fixed! No Commchat thread is complete without at least one accusation of pseudosity.
OrbWeaver on 24/5/2006 at 19:40
Quote Posted by Dia
Being biologically mature doesn't mean the young person in question won't be physically, emotionally, or mentally harmed by such an act.
Yes, that is why the age of consent exists and it is a crime to violate it. The use of the term is still wrong though, if you insist on referring to a natural human instinct as an abnormality, the correct term is
ephebephilia.
Anyway, I think my point has been made quite adequately by the increasingly hysterical and immature responses to this thread, demonstrating beyond any doubt that rational discussion is impossible as soon as children are mentioned.
Dia on 24/5/2006 at 20:05
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The use of the term is still wrong though, if you insist on referring to a natural human instinct as an abnormality, the correct term is
ephebephilia.
Some scientists refer to a sexual interest in adolescents as ephebophilia or hebephilia.It's an 'either/or' word preference, obviously. I'm not referring to a natural human instinct here; pedophilia is considered abnormal; illegal if the desire is acted upon and definitely (in most cultures) socially taboo.
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Anyway, I think my point has been made quite adequately by the increasingly hysterical and immature responses to this thread, demonstrating beyond any doubt that rational discussion is impossible as soon as children are mentioned.
I'd hardly consider my responses hysterical. (You haven't seen hysterical yet.) But I do consider your stubbornly assinine and myopic views to be exceedingly immature and honestly not worthy of further comment on my part.
OrbWeaver on 24/5/2006 at 20:09
Quote Posted by Dia
I'm not referring to a natural human instinct here; pedophilia is considered abnormal
Ephebephilia is a natural instinct whether you like it or not. It is illegal to act upon it (depending on location), and I think we are in agreement that this is a good thing.
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I'd hardly consider my responses hysterical. (You haven't seen hysterical yet.) But I do consider your stubbornly assinine and myopic views to be exceedingly immature and honestly not worthy of further comment on my part.
You may do whatever you like, however it was not you I was referring to you in that comment.
Dia on 24/5/2006 at 20:18
Quote Posted by OrbWeaver
Ephebephilia is a natural instict whether you like it or not.
Oh ffs. I am talking about pedophilia as it applies to the four degenerates originally mentioned in this thread.
Please; no more hair-splitting or midstream horse-changing.
OrbWeaver on 24/5/2006 at 20:25
Quote Posted by Dia
I am talking about pedophilia as it applies to the four degenerates originally mentioned in this thread.
That's what happens when you use one word to refer to two different things: confusion about which meaning is being employed.
The criminals mentioned at the start of this thread are indeed abnormal. Fine. Case closed.
Turtle on 24/5/2006 at 23:39
Why can't it be both?
Agent Monkeysee on 24/5/2006 at 23:54
I blame MTV.
WHO'S WITH ME
fett on 25/5/2006 at 00:02
I seem to remember some little girl who grew up to be a fatty and Stephen Tyler. Was it a dream?