vurt on 6/2/2009 at 21:31
yes that troll argument sure is handy when you can't find any good/real arguments.. +1.
Zygoptera on 6/2/2009 at 21:50
Yeah dude, because I'm sure you'd accept my well reasoned, logical and, of course, infallible opinion of why Bethesda's games are shallow illogical grindfests over your own opinion that they're awesomic to the max- I know if you came up with a logical and well reasoned post why the dialogue in PST sucked I would immediately be swayed and convinced by it.
vurt on 6/2/2009 at 22:15
I'm not forcing my opinion upon anyone. For a moderator i have to say you act really childish, you can't take that i play RPG's for a different reason than you do?
I have no problems whatsoever that you play RPG's for different reasons than i do, it's just that i don't get what people see in totaly bland acting and totally bland RPG stories (BG etc) i've yet to see a game that has movie quality acting or book quality story (there are some, like planescape torment - awesome story, good characters but the rest is pretty weak, like i said, you can't have it all) + what's the idea behind playing a RPG that is almost as linear as a movie.. Interactivity and exploring that's two things you can't have in movies or in books and what makes games great, i'm just saying Bethesda's take on games makes more sense, at least to me.
"Grindfests"? Huh? I mean you don't even get xp for killing mobs and most quests arent about killing 50 bandits and getting a reward etc, but whatever, you COULD play it as a grindfest and kill everyoine in sight if you're that kind of RPG'er i guess, i've never tried it though, seems boring??
...and I guess i was right, you did do the troll argument because you had absolutely nothing to say.. how.. creative.
gunsmoke on 6/2/2009 at 22:31
Quote Posted by vurt
I'm not forcing my opinion upon anyone. For a moderator i have to say you act really childish,\.
And vurt goes on vacation...:joke:
vurt on 6/2/2009 at 22:38
Quote Posted by gunsmoke
And vurt goes on vacation...:joke:
Compared to being called a "troll" (because someone doesnt agree with your opinion) i don't think "childish" was that harsh though ;)
I think he need anger managment, or maybe a.. vacation.
june gloom on 6/2/2009 at 23:09
vurt? Calling someone childish?
lol
vurt on 6/2/2009 at 23:23
Quote Posted by dethtoll
vurt? Calling someone childish?
lol
I know! i couldn't believe it myself, but it did happen, or so the legend says.
I'm guessing the next part will be him (or someone else who doesnt agree with me) complaining about my misspellings. COULD be a combination of that + beeing called a "troll",
again. DONT miss out!!!1
Zygoptera on 6/2/2009 at 23:52
Pah, you don't get banned for differences of opinion on any forum worth its salt.
vurt, my dear fellow, you take it all too personal. If I were to have been a bit more verbose and direct (and since you're a presumably non native english speaker I perhaps ought to have been, or perhaps used smilies) I might have said two things. First, that it is nice that you like Bethesda's games but that stating so was rather pointless and not likely to lead to anything constructive, as it is obvious that DA is not going to be like them in just about any respect.
Secondly, I would not have said you were trolling- much as I didn't think Aja was actually trolling when I said much the same thing to him a couple of weeks ago I don't actually think you were trolling- I would simply have made clear that your opinion is diametrically opposed to the one I have formed.
As for explaining why Bethesda's games 'suck' as a counterpoint to your assertion that they are awesome, well, that is roughly as useful as trying to explain to you why I don't like bananas- if you happen to like bananas you aren't suddenly going to decide that they're vile just on my say so, and nor should you, and I'm not suddenly going to decide that I do like them either.
vurt on 7/2/2009 at 00:13
I think my comments were far more constructive and had way more points than "..and then there's bethesda" or "bioware has never made a great game".
You can ask someone why he doesnt like bananas, and you get his point of view and you might even understand what he means, it can even be interesting sometimes to see how other people think about stuff, if you have an open mind about things. You can explain to someone why you like bananas without any other reason than you want to express your love for bananas. But whatever, this is getting pretty gay right here.. :P If all you want is totaly shallow posts like "fuck it." or "suxxorz!", i'll try to better myself, Mr. Moderator.
Ostriig on 7/2/2009 at 02:45
Quote Posted by vurt
I think my comments were far more constructive and had way more points than "..and then there's bethesda" or "bioware has never made a great game".
Your comments were a fallacy from the get-go, in that you stated that just because Bethesda handle interactivity "better" than other companies, they are better at making videogames overall. Interactivity is indeed the trademark of the medium, but in the absence of a fittingly compelling narrative setting it's only good enough to power a sandbox toy and nothing more.
And get that Bethesda branded stick out of your ass - saying that they have crap dialogs is both true and relevant to the subject that was at hand at that given point.
