Vae on 17/7/2017 at 23:08
Quote Posted by Kolya
You see icemann, when you got Vae to agree with you and pulling his retarded troll card for your cause, you're on the wrong fucking boat. It's just a fucking TV show that's pretty boring to begin with.
They're replacing the male lead with a woman. Maybe they do it to appeal to some teens, maybe just to jazz things up a bit, it doesn't matter.
What does matter is that you just became part of a very vocal group of troglodytes who feel threatened and insulted when a female meddles with their toys and will lash out against that woman in the worst possible way.
And don't tell me you're not part of them. Because when you're in a demo of asshats and don't get out asap and loudly pronounce your differing opinion then you're a part of that shitpool and deserve to be treated like them.
Fuck, I'm tired of you manchildren wailing like babies whenever a woman comes near. You came out of a pussy and while you may never get close to another, that should be enough to show some respect.
Quote Posted by Vae
...and then it'll be Gandalf gone Trans, with Bilbo and Sam as lesbian adventure buddies!
I'd have the same problem with Lara Croft becoming Larry Croft.If you want to bring in more women, blacks, or gays,
create a new IP instead of corrupting the classic universes.
I must say, Kolya, you really need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Otherwise it makes you look like a fucking asshole for superimposing a false motive on those you wish to attack.
@icemann
Don't let this guy attempt to guilt you on something you're not guilty of...His bullying attempt only reveals his own prejudice.
Kolya on 18/7/2017 at 06:28
In other words women on tv are a slippery slope to you. You cannot give in an inch because who knows what toy of yours they'll want to play with next.
And you believe the fact that you like to watch Lara Croft's polygon tits wobbling across your screen proves that you are an objective judge on gender in the media.
You are judging this Doctor purely on the fact that she's a woman. Go watch the show.
Vivian on 18/7/2017 at 09:47
That space marine could be a woman, you know
Kolya on 18/7/2017 at 11:18
Quote Posted by icemann
To resort to personal insults like this is beneath you. Your better than that mate. I'm all for debating differences of opinion, but I never see the point of personally insulting others just because they don't agree with our point of view. I think too many of us nowadays are surrounded by others (both in reality and online) who mainly agree with our point of view. So whenever someone comes along that does not meet that status quo, then ZOMG DEATH TO THE HERETIC.
I didn't mean to insult you personally. However your viewpoint is based solely on her gender and you make it before the season has aired. That's clear gender prejudice. It does not qualify as an opinion. So we have no difference of opinions that could be discussed in a fair and reasonable manner. You cannot step out of the circle of decent human behaviour and yet demand it from others.
If you watch the show and find that she does a shitty job as a Doctor or her origin isn't explained adequately compared to many other changes the show has seen over time, then we can discuss opinions.
Trance on 18/7/2017 at 11:42
I have no dog in this race; don't watch the show with regularity because it's not my kind of sci-fi.
I just wanted to mention that this:
Quote Posted by Kolya
[. . .] Your viewpoint is based solely on her gender and you make it before the season has aired. That's clear gender prejudice. It does not qualify as an opinion.
...ignores context entirely. His viewpoint is about their decision to change The Doctor's gender while a global row on gender politics is going on. The optics of the situation, even to me, are that this decision has a political foundation rather than a purely artistic one. That's what he has a problem with, not the woman herself.
Pyrian on 18/7/2017 at 12:18
The gender politics of the 60's meant that The Doctor absolutely had to be a white man. That restriction remained in place much longer than it had any business remaining in place. Claiming that modern gender politics are forcing this change is disingenuous at best - it was gender politics that made it the way it was in the first palce.
Vivian on 18/7/2017 at 12:21
So, the issue is that they've changed aspects of the show to make it appeal to modern audiences. Which they've done shitloads of already. But this is different because its actually about ethics in timelord regeneration or some other bollocks, yeah whatever
heywood on 18/7/2017 at 12:31
Quote Posted by Kolya
You see icemann, when you got Vae to agree with you and pulling his retarded troll card for your cause, you're on the wrong fucking boat. It's just a fucking TV show that's pretty boring to begin with.
They're replacing the male lead with a woman. Maybe they do it to appeal to some teens, maybe just to jazz things up a bit, it doesn't matter.
What does matter is that you just became part of a very vocal group of troglodytes who feel threatened and insulted when a female meddles with their toys and will lash out against that woman in the worst possible way.
And don't tell me you're not part of them. Because when you're in a demo of asshats and don't get out asap and loudly pronounce your differing opinion then you're a part of that shitpool and deserve to be treated like them.
Fuck, I'm tired of you manchildren wailing like babies whenever a woman comes near. You came out of a pussy and while you may never get close to another, that should be enough to show some respect.
You're being an asshole Kolya. People ought to be able to express an opinion about whether gender is important to the character or not based on historical or artistic reasons without being called a troglodyte, asshat, shitpool, manchild, etc. Your post is a shining example of the ad hominem attacks that create a backlash against "social justice warriors".
Kolya on 18/7/2017 at 12:35
Quote Posted by Trance
His viewpoint is about their decision to change The Doctor's gender while a global row on gender politics is going on. The optics of the situation, even to me, are that this decision has a political foundation rather than a purely artistic one. That's what he has a problem with, not the woman herself.
Your opinion that a "global row on gender politics is going on" is slanted to begin with. Others might simply describe it as a change towards equality.
You call that change "political" to distance yourself from it and devaluate it, which is a problem for itself because politics are a representation of society and you cannot distance yourself from it because you are part of society. But it's also just factually wrong. Did any politician demand Doctor Who to become a woman?
The move towards equality is actually a societal change. And a TV show that wants to stay relevant would be well advised to pick up on such societal changes. Otherwise we would still have the TV shows of the 50s.
Kolya on 18/7/2017 at 12:41
Quote Posted by heywood
You're being an asshole Kolya. People ought to be able to express an opinion
If you don't like my reaction to your "opinions", get better opinions.
