Rug Burn Junky on 22/6/2006 at 17:48
Understanding metaphor: 1
ZylonBane: 0
Watching you complain about art is like watching some nerd who has no clue how to flirt bitch about how he can't get laid because "girls are too shallow for him."
Which you probably do as well.
Jackablade on 22/6/2006 at 18:06
I think it looks pretty cool, but maybe that's because I don't recognize it as a sheep.
Para?noid on 22/6/2006 at 18:23
This is pretty typical Hirst. Personally, I love it, it's absolutely fascinating and raw, and brings a new kind of "human" dimension to his traditional theme by substituting the expected subject with that of a dead animal. I relate to it because I've certainly been in a situation like that, fucked out of my head, feeling like nothing more than a twisted carcass.
However, I'm always uncomfortable with the hat-tipping YBA's give to Francis Bacon (Saville is guilty of this too, to some extent). I mean these guys really love him:
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<i>Tryptich, June 1973 (Left Panel and Right Panel respectively)</i>
I trust you can see the link. The hanging lightbulb is also a reccuring Bacon theme, and this whole (for George Dyer) crap is pretty annoying. Hirst never knew Dyer personally, he was a lover of Bacon's who comitted suicide in 1973 and was the subject of many of his best paintings. Hirst's work suggests to me that, like his previous escapades in the Colony Rooms, that he's just trying to fufil some kind of fantasy life he can never have, spurned on possibly because Bacon once said that Hirst's earlier material "worked"? I think he was reffering to "A Thousand Years" which is an incredible peice.
If anyone is having problems understanding what constitutes art, I don't blame you, it's confusing stuff. But trust me, this is art, even if it is paint-by-numbers stuff. Anyone who thinks that an image has to be "deconstructed" or "worked out" is missing out because ESPECIALLY artists such as Hirst are trying to convey a gut feeling wrapped up in an instant-hit aesthetic; what is there visually is of upmost importance. As a result, you get this 'marmite effect' where people either love it, or they hate it.
Usually the people that hate it are fucking morons. There's not much to take on here; a few objects, a box, and a subject. If it makes you feel anything at all then it has done it's job. Funnily enough, tedious shitheels like ZylonBane work exactly like this- trying to get a rise out of everyone by offending their sensibilities. ZylonBane, you are a work of art. Apart from nobody will ever love or appreciate you.
Or hang you up on a wall by a hook, which is the least you deserve, you pathetic, lonely geek
paloalto on 22/6/2006 at 18:30
Quote Posted by Chimpy Chompy
Or subjective.
No it means you can call anything art.So give me a definition of what isn't art?
Chimpy Chompy on 22/6/2006 at 18:40
Anything can be art to you, personally, if it provokes the right response within. Some other things might be art to me. When lots of people agree on something it generally becomes regarded as a Good Piece of Art, huzzah.
Fingernail on 22/6/2006 at 19:09
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I never claimed to be an artist.
Bring on the rest of the CommChat ankle-biters.
How appropriate, you fight like a cow preserved in formaldehyde.
ZylonBane on 22/6/2006 at 19:21
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
Watching you complain about art is like watching some nerd who has no clue how to flirt bitch about how he can't get laid because "girls are too shallow for him."
But dear RuBuJu, I haven't been complaining about art. I've been complaining about crap pawned off as art.
Stitch on 22/6/2006 at 19:25
NOW THAT'S A ZING, FOLKS
Rug Burn Junky on 22/6/2006 at 19:40
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But dear RuBuJu, I haven't been complaining about art. I've been complaining about crap pawned off as art.
You don't know the difference there, sonny boy.
Carini on 22/6/2006 at 20:13
I'm surrounded by formaldehyde everyday at work, I wouldn't want that shit in my house I don't care what it's stored in. If some rich fucker wants to pay "vast sums" for his private collection, the more power to him.
