Vitro13 on 4/3/2025 at 22:48
Are there any games this old (excepting perhaps Dwarf Fortress) that still generate this kind of enduring enthusiasm? Just curious. I regularly see 125+ logged-in users in the Fan Missions sub.
Starker on 5/3/2025 at 00:44
Tomb Raider still has a small but enthusiastic FM creator community. Other than that, Doom is one of the big ones that absolutely dwarfs any other old game. Oh, and Morrowind is a slightly newer game that still has plenty of new stuff coming out.
downwinder on 5/3/2025 at 01:59
we are all still waiting for thief 4 to come out, we will wait until we meet the master builder
Twist on 6/3/2025 at 00:01
Everyone in a niche community thinks they're rare and special, but there are a bunch of old games with large and active followings.
It's just close to impossible for any one person to know about them all, much less care about even half of them.
Specifically, games like Doom and Quake are older than Thief and have much larger and much more active communities. I could name a bunch of others, but I don't think there's any point to it.
I'm just happy Thief is one of those enduring games and communities.
TheRealSlimGarrett on 7/3/2025 at 16:36
Quote Posted by downwinder
we are all still waiting for thief 4 to come out
:confused::tsktsk:
downwinder on 7/3/2025 at 17:59
Quote Posted by TheRealSlimGarrett
:confused::tsktsk:
why confused, a lot of people are hoping to find out more to the story/lore of thief, post thief 3 and pre thief 1
and of course the fan missions
Vitro13 on 7/3/2025 at 23:14
Quote Posted by Twist
Everyone in a niche community thinks they're rare and special, but there are a bunch of old games with large and active followings.
It's just close to impossible for any one person to know about them all, much less care about even half of them.
Specifically, games like Doom and Quake are older than Thief and have much larger and much more active communities. I could name a bunch of others, but I don't think there's any point to it.
I'm just happy Thief is one of those enduring games and communities.
I was just curious.
demagogue on 12/3/2025 at 20:16
Doom (& its derivatives) & Tomb Raider (IIRC TR4 was the most FM-heavy one) are what I thought of as well.
I think people are still making Halflife 1&2 maps too.
Morrowind, Skyrim isn't that old but still, Deadly Rooms of Death maps... Well once you're talking about DROD, there are heaps of small games with fan maps like that that are still going strong. There are over a dozen oldschool wargames that allow fan scenarios with maps still coming out. The Interactive Fiction, point & click, & visual novel scenes going back to the mid-to late-1980s are still going.
One thing that I think makes Thief & our FMs still special among the classics is it really hit the sweet spot between uniting great storytelling with great gameplay. Most genres are either one or the other and can't combine both well.
Twist on 14/3/2025 at 19:46
Quote Posted by Vitro13
I was just curious.
I sincerely apologize if my post came off as being dickish. Your query didn't deserve the attitude and my response wasn't really directed at you, personally.
I think I've developed an unhealthy cynicism in this area. Niche communities thinking they're special ("We're so rare... those other people,
they don't get it. But us?
We get it"), finding each other online, and then growing in power and righteousness, has at least partly led to the sociopolitical hellscape that is 2025.
Plus, by now it should be some kind of universal humility rule for appreciating what exists in all media at this point:
Just because I don't know about it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.I've accumulated a fair number of eyeroll-inducing experiences when I've wandered into various niche gaming communities. Everyone thinks they're rare, and they place some significant value on that rarity.
I wish people would just enjoy what they enjoy without manifesting some personal or collective ego about it.
Hanover Aldercash on 14/3/2025 at 22:45
Are you going to list any of these hipster communes, or are we not cool enough to know about them?
I dipped my toe into Civilization 4 mods recently. There seems to be a good amount of activity there. I recommend Realism Invictus for historicity, intuitive complexity, and tasteful leader portraits.
