EvaUnit02 on 27/7/2009 at 11:07
Quote Posted by ZymeAddict
I'm guessing that has more to do with a screw-up on the part of the scriptwriter than an implied miscommunication between the two parties.
Likely more to do with you jumping to conclusions and judging something that you not only haven't even seen, but has yet to be released or at least viewed by the professional critics.
Elusive Paladin on 27/7/2009 at 15:06
Quote Posted by ZymeAddict
It's an interesting premise, and I know Blomkamp is obviously trying to draw some sort of parallel with apartheid (ooh, that's a really edgy and topical subject :rolleyes:)
Yes, it (still) is, in SA, as it happens.
june gloom on 27/7/2009 at 19:54
Well, to be fair, it HAS only been twenty years. Wait until the people who remember the worst of it are no longer alive. Same goes with segregation in the US. No former slaves are still alive today, but slavery gets dragged along behind segregation thanks to segregation being essentially a continuation of the racist ideas that kept slavery going. When nobody remembers segregation anymore (which may take a couple of decades yet) then the bad memories of both may finally die.
ZymeAddict on 27/7/2009 at 20:52
Quote Posted by gunsmoke
Someone has to pick all those 'taters.
:angel:
No, that's what the Mexicans are for. :)
Quote Posted by Taffer36
For twenty-eight years?
I know it's OH MY GOD ALIENS, but at some point people WILL return to their lives. Especially (in the movie's context) when they realize that the aliens have a broken ship, can't go anywhere, and didn't come here intentionally to show us anything.
Where are they going to live? What are the aliens going to do? Would you be comfortable having them live amongst you? That's what the film explores, from what I can gather.
Twenty-eight years (I don't know where you got that number, but I'll just go with it) is not all that long when dealing with an event of that magnitude. Yes, people will return to their lives, but the world dynamic will be irreversibly changed. There will definitely be many special organizations, both national and international, with the express purpose of dealing with the aliens in a humane and equitable manner, even if they are deemed to be completely worthless (which, from the trailer, obviously isn't true anyway), and a drain on resources. I mean, look at SETI. All it's supposed to do is
look for intelligent alien life, and in the forty years since it started it's produced fuck-all in the way of results. And yet people still fund the thing.
You can bet even if national and international governments completely give up on the aliens in that relatively short period of time (
very unlikely, IMO), there will still be plenty of very wealthy individuals and organizations lining up to give them support. There is no way they would end up destitute in a shanty-town being bullied by a multinational corporation, as seems to be shown in the trailer.
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
Likely more to do with you jumping to conclusions and judging something that you not only haven't even seen, but has yet to be released or at least viewed by the professional critics.
Well, Taffer was jumping just as far with the assertion that there is a communication problem between the aliens and humans. The subtitles show pretty definitively that the aliens can communicate effectively. As for the discrepancy between the interrogation scene in the first trailer versus the one in the second: okay, perhaps it wasn't a writers error. More likely, the makers of trailer were just doing the usual practice of taking clips out of context in order to better showcase the themes of the film.
The first interrogation scene was obviously supposed to show that the aliens are resented, but their technology is still coveted. The one in the second trailer was meant to show that the aliens are unhappy in their situation and want to leave, but are being held against their will. I don't really think either of these prove that there is a lack of communication between the two sides.
Quote Posted by Elusive Paladin
Yes, it (still) is, in SA, as it happens.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always got the impression that the main issues in SA in relation to apartheid that are still being discussed are its legacy in regards to education, work quotas, reparations, and the like. I thought it was pretty settled that apartheid was a
bad thing, which is all this film seems to be commenting on.
Stitch on 27/7/2009 at 21:01
Quote Posted by ZymeAddict
Twenty-eight years (I don't know where you got that number, but I'll just go with it)
It's in the trailer. At any rate, I think you underestimate how long 28 years are--that's long enough that people turning thirty would have never known a world that
didn't have alien cohabitation.
At least, 28 years works for me within the context of a fictitious movie about aliens.
Scots Taffer on 27/7/2009 at 23:10
fuck you man, you weren't there
Aerothorn on 28/7/2009 at 02:42
I really liked Alive in Johannesburg, but the trailer for this gives me the fears - that it will start off as rather thoughtful and then end up as a blow-em-up action movie, ala Children of Men.
Dia on 28/7/2009 at 03:10
Seconded fett (1st page).
I'm there in any event.
dethtoll ....
'nuff said.
And of course I mean that in the nicest possible manner.
Stitch on 28/7/2009 at 03:41
Quote Posted by Aerothorn
I really liked Alive in Johannesburg, but the trailer for this gives me the fears - that it will start off as rather thoughtful and then end up as a blow-em-up action movie, ala
Children of Men.
There are worse things than to turn into a movie of Children of Men's caliber.
