Muzman on 27/7/2009 at 05:09
Quote Posted by ZymeAddict
It's an interesting premise, and I know Blomkamp is obviously trying to draw some sort of parallel with apartheid (ooh, that's a really edgy and topical subject :rolleyes:).
I know, as if slavery and segregation would be hugely divisive issues that come up every so often in the US to this day.
Apartheid and its virtual civil war was 20 years ago. Get over it guys, sheesh!
Anyway, they might be able to explain away the premise. I wouldn't imagine a large scale alien arrival would be as cut and dried as "instant VIPs" (that would be too much like
V). In any case the other direction could be too much like
Alien Nation.
edit: and there it is. Man, isn't remaking V already enough? They didn't even finish
Alien Nation the first time.
Fafhrd on 27/7/2009 at 06:29
Isn't the idea that this is 20 years after the arrival and everybody's realized that 90% of the aliens' technology is just fucking busted and they're not useful for much at all? VIP treatment dries up real quick when you can't exploit the VIPs for anything.
ZymeAddict on 27/7/2009 at 08:38
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
To tackle your comment seriously, you are totally wrong. It entirely depends on the nature of the alien interaction with our society that would dictate our response.
If a big floating mothership docked off the coast of Britain and they beamed down, happy to be off their ship, never to return, and immediately started consuming resources at a rapid rate, unable to intelligently communicate with a naturally stunned (and possibly very alarmed) ground force/government, any defence mechanism to control this could easily reflect what we see there. Especially if the situation spilled over into any minor confrontations or violence, intentionally or not.
Except they do seem able to communicate effectively (as is shown by the subtitles when they speak in the trailer). Also, even if there were small unpleasant incidents involving the aliens, given their massive historical, technological, and societal significance, I'm sure the international community would allow them quite a bit of leeway in their interactions with us (i.e. anything short of killing massive numbers of civilians). You can be sure the UN would make some sort of special organization to deal with the aliens and there would be a plethora of watchdog groups to make sure no one would mistreat them.
Quote Posted by Muzman
I know, as if slavery and segregation would be hugely divisive issues that come up every so often in the US to this day.
Apartheid and its virtual civil war was 20 years ago. Get over it guys, sheesh!
Yes, do get over it. The only people who still bang on about slavery and segregation are almost all race-bating opportunists like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who shouldn't be given the time of day in my opinion. Same goes for apartheid. It's over and done with. Move on already.
Quote Posted by Muzman
Anyway, they might be able to explain away the premise. I wouldn't imagine a large scale alien arrival would be as cut and dried as "instant VIPs" (that would be too much like
V). In any case the other direction could be too much like
Alien Nation.
Never seen
V, but based on descriptions the premise seems more logical than the one for this film.
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
Isn't the idea that this is 20 years after the arrival and everybody's realized that 90% of the aliens' technology is just fucking busted and they're not useful for much at all? VIP treatment dries up real quick when you can't exploit the VIPs for anything.
I got the opposite impression: that the aliens are essentially being held captive for their valuable tech, and aren't being allowed to leave by the evil multinational.
june gloom on 27/7/2009 at 08:39
Quote Posted by ZymeAddict
Yes, do get over it. The only people who still bang on about slavery and segregation are almost all race-bating opportunists like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who shouldn't be given the time of day in my opinion. Same goes for apartheid. It's over a done with. Move on already.
Does Idaho even have black people?
Taffer36 on 27/7/2009 at 08:42
Quote Posted by ZymeAddict
Except they do seem able to communicate effectively (as is shown by the subtitles when they speak in the trailer). Also, even if there were small unpleasant incidents involving the aliens, given their massive historical, technological, and societal significance, I'm sure the international community would allow them quite a bit of leeway in their interactions with us (i.e. anything short of killing massive numbers of civilians). You can be sure the UN would make some sort of special organization to deal with the aliens and there would be a plethora of watchdog groups to make sure no one would mistreat them.
Genocide? Psh, that doesn't happen anymore! Large-scale crimes against humanity happening daily? A thing of the past! The UN works, man!
It's getting late so correct me if I'm wrong, but in one of the trailers the subtitles have the alien state that it just wants to leave, but in the other one the interviewer asks "why don't you just leave?" So it appears that there's some sort of communication barrier between the two.
Edit: You must be pulling an AR on us.
ZymeAddict on 27/7/2009 at 08:57
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Does Idaho even have black people?
Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating about only Jesse Jackson and co bitching about slavery, but that doesn't change the fact it's a tired-ass subject that people should fucking learn to drop already.
And yes, we do have black people. Just not very many compared to the Asians and Hispanics.
Quote Posted by Taffer36
Yeah! Because those watchdog groups ALWAYS work! That's why there's no mistreatment of anyone, anywhere! Genocide? Psh, that doesn't happen anymore! Large-scale crimes against humanity happening daily? A thing of the past!
Except there is a huge fucking difference between some poor starving kid with flies in their eyes in Darfur and the first contact ever with intelligent alien life. Sorry, but it's true. You can bet your ass people will be watching them like a hawk.
Quote Posted by Taffer36
It's getting late so correct me if I'm wrong, but in one of the trailers the subtitles have the alien state that it just wants to leave, but in the other one the interviewer asks "why don't you just leave?" So it appears that there's some sort of communication barrier between the two.
I'm guessing that has more to do with a screw-up on the part of the scriptwriter than an implied miscommunication between the two parties.
gunsmoke on 27/7/2009 at 09:06
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Does Idaho even have black people?
Someone has to pick all those 'taters.
:angel:
Taffer36 on 27/7/2009 at 09:11
Quote Posted by ZymeAddict
Except there is a huge fucking difference between some poor starving kid with flies in their eyes in Darfur and the first contact ever with intelligent alien life. Sorry, but it's true. You can bet your ass people will be watching them like a hawk.
For twenty-eight years?
I know it's OH MY GOD ALIENS, but at some point people WILL return to their lives. Especially (in the movie's context) when they realize that the aliens have a broken ship, can't go anywhere, and didn't come here intentionally to show us anything.
Where are they going to live? What are the aliens going to do? Would you be comfortable having them live amongst you? That's what the film explores, from what I can gather.
Scots Taffer on 27/7/2009 at 09:47
Quote Posted by ZymeAddict
I'm guessing that has more to do with a screw-up on the part of the scriptwriter than an implied miscommunication between the two parties.
lol really
