Jason Moyer on 4/11/2016 at 03:26
If everyone liked Arkane and Obsidian games as much as I do the world would be a better place, for one thing.
Anyway, my list of devs or series who I will pre-order is a pretty short one. I like the Arkham games, but they aren't on pre-order level for me. Or the aforementioned Borderlands, or whatever. Monolith had a pretty good run, then Contract JACK happened and I leapt off the train. And there are obvious counters that would keep from pre-ordering something, like being a mobile title or an MMO or some other shit I don't care about.
Starker on 4/11/2016 at 03:28
People liked Dishonored a lot, actually. To the point that it's pretty unlikely we'll see something like Arx Fatalis again.
Vivian on 4/11/2016 at 03:30
You are encouraging a system that does not reward quality, for the sake of maybe 24 hrs on average early access and/or a fiver off. It's fucking stupid. Good devs shouldn't need it.
Jason Moyer on 4/11/2016 at 03:30
That is my biggest disappointment about DH2. I really dislike that Arkane is making a sequel/franchise game. On the other hand, jesus there's a 99% chance of it giving me multiple orgasms.
Making a shit game means not getting my money in the future. How is that not rewarding quality. I can't gauge a game's fucking quality until I've played it, so being part of a series I like or being made by a developer whose work I like is a pretty big determinant when it comes to deciding to buy it. Otherwise it goes in the "wait until it's on sale for less than $10" pile if I'm curious about it.
Vivian on 4/11/2016 at 03:35
Not preprdering a shit game means nor getting your money right now. How does that not sound sensible?
Jason Moyer on 4/11/2016 at 03:36
How do I know if the game is shit until I've played it?
I think you're failing to distinguish between my reasons for pre-ordering something and the reasons people pre-order shit like No Man's Sky or [insert something hyped to fucking hell here] and then immediately get burned by it, say that they're never going to let it happen again, and then go and do the exact same shit because they're stupid.
I like the games that Arkane and Obsidian make. I will buy anything they make. At some point it's likely they'll do something shitty, and will lose that goodwill. Thusfar it has not happened.
Starker on 4/11/2016 at 03:41
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How do I know if the game is shit until I've played it?
Watching gameplay footage and reading reviews is a pretty good indicator usually.
Vivian on 4/11/2016 at 03:42
Ok there are degrees here. But the difference between 'arkane have made good games, I will probs buy this unless the reviews are actually awful' and 'i will buy this regardless' must be obvious, you're not an idiot.
Jason Moyer on 4/11/2016 at 03:43
The few times I've ever been burned buying a game (and it hasn't happened on a pre-order/day 1 yet, afaik, always at like 50-75% off but not below my $10 threshold) it's been because the gameplay videos/reviews made it seem like something I'd like. Then I played it and didn't enjoy it whatsoever.
There's very little correlation between how a game is rated in reviews (user or pro) and whether or not I personally will enjoy it.
