SD on 1/3/2010 at 03:17
That would be Poe's law.
AR Master on 1/3/2010 at 04:48
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What's that internet law called that says it's impossible to distinguish actual religious fundamentalism from parodies of religious fundamentalism? It's proven yet again.
characteristics of an extreme behaviour are similar to characteristics of a behaviour exaggerated to the extreme for humourous purposes????
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edit what the fuck happened to my icon
Bluegrime on 1/3/2010 at 20:35
This is two parts ridiculous. One on the family for fleeing their native country and starting anew in the US over homeschooling, and two on the Deustchers for making homeschool illegal to begin with.
Making homeschooling illegal effectively undermines anything a parent would want to teach their children that the state disagrees with. Think Sex Ed isn't something for school? Fuck off, because your kids are seeing it anyway. Feel like the curriculum is running counter to how you want to raise your children? Eat it, because their going to be hearing how incorrect you are from the state no matter what. Do you have a handicapped child and feel like the state isn't providing a proper environment? Too bad, tell 'em to quit crying and suck it up.
Because in Germany, the public education system is for everyone. And if you don't think so, you can GIIIIIT OUT!
Sulphur on 1/3/2010 at 21:25
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edit what the fuck happened to my icon
Only happens if you've got a post title to go along with it now.
Also, it's red now. And less edgy.
AR Master on 1/3/2010 at 21:39
i am outraged
CCCToad on 1/3/2010 at 22:54
Quote Posted by Bluegrime
Making homeschooling illegal effectively undermines anything a parent would want to teach their children that the state disagrees with. Think Sex Ed isn't something for school? Fuck off, because your kids are seeing it anyway. Feel like the curriculum is running counter to how you want to raise your children? Eat it, because their going to be hearing how incorrect you are from the state no matter what. Do you have a handicapped child and feel like the state isn't providing a proper environment? Too bad, tell 'em to quit crying and suck it up.
Exactly. Germany agrees, since the argument against homeschooling was that it is "the general interest of society to avoid the emergence of parallel societies based on separate philosophical convictions".
Gryzemuis on 2/3/2010 at 07:07
I wish people would enter their location in their user profile. So we can see what country they live in, and where they are coming from. So I know if they have a clue what they are talking about. Americans tend to think strictly from an american background, without a clue about foreign situations or foreign ideas. (I say, tend, ofc it's not absolute). This is understandable, as most foreigners can read English, see american documentaries, read american websites, etc. While most american people have no sources for foreign information, except their own media. And we know how good US media are about reporting from abroad.
I believe the German schoolsystem is similar to the Dutch. If you don't like your kid's school, it is simple. You put your kid on another school. If you don't like any of the existing schools, you can start your own school. You will even get government funding to run your school. Yes, there are still new schools started in NL, because parents don't like the existing ones. And usually religion is the deciding factor.
Personally I don't think it's bad that children are forced to go to school. If you never go to school, your social skills might be really bad. Interaction with other kids is good. I wouldn't be surprised if home-schooled children would have a substantial higher percentage of children with social problems later in life.
Yeah, I agree that many schools are bad. I guess in all countries. There's a lot of room for improvements. Personally I think a good start would be if all schools would become a lot smaller. But in any case, going to school is always better than being isolated.
june gloom on 2/3/2010 at 07:53
Considering some of the nonsense you have buttsprayed all over this forum I don't think you get to make generalizations about the United States, particularly since the Netherlands' primary export to TTLG is uninformed insanity.
Thirith on 2/3/2010 at 08:11
For what it's worth, though, I would share her assessment in the first paragraph of her post. Even among the educated Americans I've found that they know very little about what's happening in Europe, not least because US media seem to be barely interested in the rest of the world, whereas I'd estimate that at least a third of the news we get in Europe is concerned with the rest of the world and the US, added to which a huge part of what's shown on TV is American fare. My impression is simply that we're a lot more exposed to the US and its cultural output than the other way round.
CCCToad on 2/3/2010 at 14:00
it is true that you can move to another school, but in most instances that isn't beneficial because as in just about any western public school system, the curriculum is largely standardized. If you have an issue with whats being taught, you aren't going to particularly care who is teaching it. Yes, it is true that starting your own school is possible, but not really practical for someone with a full time job. That is also made more difficult by how Germany's educational system is organized. Kids are sorted into either vocational or university-prep schools based on test scores. Not only does that make it difficult to switch from your job into teaching (or any other career change, for that matter), but it means the obstacles to starting up a new school are significant.
