descenterace on 11/2/2006 at 23:18
This thread will only get worse.
OMG NAZIS!!!!!11!!
[We hereby invoke Godwin's Law. --CynicalDescenter]
aguywhoplaysthief on 12/2/2006 at 01:08
Yeah, LINUX SUX.
Nicker on 12/2/2006 at 01:31
Quote Posted by fett
You're obviously a fucking idiot. Great thread tho.
Thank you. I assume, by this you mean "I disagree with you strongly but I have no evidence, examples or cogent arguments to support my assertion". Perhaps this bit of (
http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?art_id=qw1139659560589B213&set_id=1&click_id=31&sf=) jinking will help you formulate a less personal response.
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Talk about a frivolous lawsuit.
Frivolous? How so? It's a clever and overdue challenge, in my opinion. It's about truth in advertising, especially for snake oil. If TV psychics are forced to add disclaimers that their services are 'only intended as entertainment' then why don't televangelists have to do the same before they fleece the sheep? Only seems fair.
fett on 12/2/2006 at 02:16
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I assume, by this you mean "I disagree with you strongly but I have no evidence, examples or cogent arguments to support my assertion"
No, by this I mean, I've discussed this at least 150 times on these forums, I teach Middle-Eastern history for a living, and you're an idiot if you think Jesus of Nazareth never actually lived. If you've got an axe to grind with the Pope, Bob Tilton, or Ned Flanders, you're time would be more wisely spent punching holes in Creationism or the Social Gospel issue. This subject is ridiculous.
Next I'd like to discuss whether or not Shakespeare actually lived. That Ok with everyone? :rolleyes:
DarkViper on 12/2/2006 at 02:25
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If TV psychics are forced to add disclaimers that their services are 'only intended as entertainment' then why don't televangelists have to do the same before they fleece the sheep? Only seems fair.
Bit of a difference there. With a TV psychic people are being urged to call in at $2.99 minute and without that disclaimer are actually believing that this stuff is true. They may be misguided as well [all the while losing money] by believing their significant other is cheating on them and there are "great fortunes ahead" - massive lottery spendings ensue due to this "reading". It costs people a crapton of money for a psychic so they need to be aware that it's all fun and games. A TV Evangelist, well I'm not absolutely positive because I
change the channel when they come on but they shouldn't be charging for their "services" anyway. They are attempting to convert someone to their faith, isn't that it? That is much more than for mere entertainment purposes. Faith is what guides people through their lives, each believing of a certain outcome at death... it keeps people going and damnit it doesn't cost money like a psychic. But it is a choice. Religion is basically a belief in something, and most are of a higher power, but if you choose not to believe in whatever religions are out there than so be it.
TV Evangelists aren't charging $2.99/minute to call their lines (and if some do... well those fuckers need to get the hell out of any and all media). I dislike people who heavily push religions it fucking pisses me off it gives the religion's they are pushing a bad name. Religion is a choice, not a damn "mandatory group" to be in or whatever idea Evangelists seem to force people to conclude.
K, anyway, point is there's no need to slap a "for entertainment purposes only" on something that focuses on BELIEF. "OGM OLOL I
BELIEVE I HAVE A SLIGHT POSBLITY UV WINNIGN TEH LOTTERY!!! ENTRETAINING!!" Anything on TV with a "for entertainment purposes only" tag on it costs people money [and some off of TV as well]. That's why they put it on there. To believe in something does not cost you money.
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Mr Cascioli has written extensively on the subject, and his book, The Fable of Christ, provoked Father Righi, his former schoolmate, into a public critique in a church newsletter in 2002.
The priest countered that millions around the world had long believed in the evidence that appeared in the Gospels as well as thousands of other religious and secular writings.
So is that all that the priest said?? What's this italian guy tripping on? Let the people believe what they want to believe... it's like he's saying those millions of people are committing slander on him for believing in something that he does not. Let them believe! Change the channel if you don't want to watch! Don't read the book if it has something in it you don't like! As for this guy, DON'T ARGUE AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE'S BELIEFS not only is it pointless, they're not doing shit to him!
:mad: :mad: :mad: My pet peeve is stupid people.
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http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1258/awcrap7lz.gifK, I just realized that the priest is stupid too [according to my argument] because he read the book and responded to it. Unless Mr Cascioli actually said some personal shit to the priest then let it be! Of course... WHO brought it to court? There's the bigger idiot.
SD on 12/2/2006 at 02:26
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No, by this I mean, I've discussed this at least 150 times on these forums
For "discussed" read "browbeaten".
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I teach Middle-Eastern history for a living, and you're an idiot if you think Jesus of Nazareth never actually lived.
No he isn't. It's a perfectly reasonable opinion to hold. And is it really wise of you to refer to him as "Jesus of Nazareth" when it's probable that he never even came from Nazareth?
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Next I'd like to discuss whether or not Shakespeare actually lived. That Ok with everyone? :rolleyes:
Yeah, sure. Try explaining away all those books that he wrote for one thing.
Fafhrd on 12/2/2006 at 02:33
there are actually a couple of fairly convincing theories that William Shakespeare was not in fact William Shakespeare.
Paz on 12/2/2006 at 02:36
He was actually Billy Rattlestaff, a common swineherd from Bognor Regis.
I think the crucial element (for me, anyway) is that no-one pimps him as the son of god. Except maybe some over-eager English Lit teachers.
DarkViper on 12/2/2006 at 02:38
Shakespeare is a made up fable from a collective group of people who decided to create the pen name in an attempt to protect themselves from any possible differing public opinion at the time.
C'mon now StD, thought you knew this! :laff:
:rolleyes:
