The Alchemist on 31/5/2012 at 05:30
Blizzards official excuse? I'm sorry, did I miss that press release? I came up with that myself! Jesus, I guess I let me down. Listen, if you dont like the game... wait, hold on. I was about to suggest you fuck off and make a thread called "Diablo 3 sucks" but I forgot that the whole purpose of this forum is to talk shit about games anyway. I guess I'll fuck off and just go play and have fun and laugh at your porcelain tears.
Also, go ahead and try and belittle the arguement because you have no actual flak to throw, but seriously. Shut up for half a second and think about it. How would you make the Diablo world feel more like a larger online game? I sneakily dodged the word MMO there I'll admit it so you dont get too much of a hardon. The game has always been about a singleplayer storyline that becomes more and more difficult where you team up with other players to romp in it, kill eachother, and maybe try and beat it. Do I want to log into Tristram Central 0001 and walk around with thousands of other Nephalem? Nope.
HOWEVER. I will give you this: They should have added a SP only mode where your characters are on your local drive and have nothing to do with the multiplayer component. Why didn't they do this? Iono, probably because they figured theres more money in pushing people to play together (ergo trade) and supply their auction house with transactions.
So yeah, thats that. I discussed this with my friend when the servers were down for maintenance. He was arguing the same thing, and I had to agree, but in all honesty, at least for me (and hey I'm all that counts right) I wouldn't be happy with a singleplayer only character. I'd probably grind him for a few minutes before going meh and exiting until the servers are back up. For antisocial neckbeards I understand this would be the preferable method of play, but lets face it here, Diablo has never been about its amazing writing. It's about grinding. If you want to argue that, you already lost. And grinding is only fun when you can show it off.
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Sulphur on 31/5/2012 at 07:02
I guess you did miss that press release in the middle of your apoplexic arm flailing.
I don't give two whits of a fuck about whether the game's always been about teaming up for you and the other twats who are okay with standard options being excised from games. I don't care about whether you play it for the story or the grind. I don't give a flying pig's anus about how to make D3 a larger online game.
What I do give a fuck about is whether the game lets me play it without trying to fuck me over because its infrastructure wasn't built to accommodate user choice AT ALL.
The fact is that the AH would have been busy regardless of the pure SP population if D2 was anything to go by. The push to go always on-line is two-fold: one, it ensures people who don't buy into Actard's view of a homogenous multi/solo population with a closed economy can fuck off, and two, people who can't be validated at any given moment as someone who bought the game and isn't shafting their bottom line by running their own servers (legit or not) or changing their rules can fuck off.
Like you noticed, it is a carefully planned cash grab. And you know what? THE OUTCOME OF THIS APPROACH IS A LAYER OF DRM. Or something so close to it, it doesn't matter what the difference is to the end user. The result is the game is less convenient for people who never would have had these issues to begin with. That's the important thing. What I can't fathom is why Blizz hasn't started charging a monthly fee for everyone taking part in their 'larger online game' yet.
The Alchemist on 31/5/2012 at 07:59
You look ridiculous with that tin-foil hat on, dude.
Briareos H on 31/5/2012 at 08:00
"as you may know we are always trying out new monetization strategies"
june gloom on 31/5/2012 at 09:22
Quote Posted by The Alchemist
You look ridiculous with that tin-foil hat on, dude.
Really? You're really going that route? Because here's what you've been doing to Blizzard this entire thread:
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People have issues with Blizzard, Diablo 3, WoW, the whole bit. It happens. Get over it.
Ulukai on 31/5/2012 at 10:28
Quote Posted by The Alchemist
HOWEVER. I will give you this: They should have added a SP only mode where your characters are on your local drive and have nothing to do with the multiplayer component. Why didn't they do this? Iono, probably because they figured theres more money in pushing people to play together (ergo trade) and supply their auction house with transactions.
So yeah, thats that. I discussed this with my friend when the servers were down for maintenance. He was arguing the same thing, and I had to agree, but in all honesty, at least for
me (and hey I'm all that counts right) I wouldn't be happy with a singleplayer only character. I'd probably grind him for a few minutes before going meh and exiting until the servers are back up.
This. Also, come and get your free Banana Blowjobs from dethtoll.
faetal on 31/5/2012 at 10:35
I think the interesting point here is that if Blizzard hadn't made a game of high enough quality which people want to play, there'd be no bone of contention. I won't be buying it for many reasons, mostly have nothing to do with the game (backlog, day job), but I'm not very riled about it, because I have no pressing need to play it. So those taking major issue with the way it is made, clearly want the game bad enough to have their strong opinion on it.
Though I guess also there's the wider issue of setting precedent, which is a legit (IMO) reason to get a rant on the go.
Briareos H on 31/5/2012 at 10:45
Quote Posted by faetal
a game of high enough quality which people want to play
I have it on good authority that the actual game is extremely average at best.
Ulukai on 31/5/2012 at 10:55
Server issues aside, it's a very polished average game which does have an element of addiction, although not so much as previous games for sure, although I haven't played enough to make an informed call on balance issues.
Also, if we could all avoid any more bananas or blizzard spunk creeping into the discussion that'd be aces.
june gloom on 31/5/2012 at 11:08
It's the Pac Man noise that gets me.
