Shadowchaser426 on 10/7/2005 at 14:32

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I have been recently playing deus ex with my old ELSA Revalators Shutter Glasses.

Incase you dont know what Shutter glasses are take a look at this link
(http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/20050502/3d_stereo-04.html)

Anyway, the do make deus ex seem far more real, on of the big differences is when traversing the airducts, you have a better sense of awareness and it seems like you are really climbing through them. The NPC's look like they are 3d objects instead of flat 2d, for example you can see the assualt gun they are holding much better (even though the textures arnt too good) you can see it as a real object.

I would suggest you guys get yourself a pair of 3d shutterglasses and try it out, you do need a nvidia gfx card though as ATI cards dont work too well as they have no stereo drivers. I run the 3d glasses on my second computer which has a 5900 in it and a 19inch crt.

Hopefully when that OLED 3D Visor comes out it can do all the 3d without any ghosting or flicker, plus it has a 40 degree FOV which should be quite good.
(http://www.emagin.com/3dvisor/html/product.htm)

3D may be finally coming to the computer gaming world in a useful package.

SDX on 12/7/2005 at 20:45

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I've red about the shutter glasses technology now on tomsHardware, thank's for the interesting link, and while now I understood the origin of this effect I also found proof I won't use it, ever. How high refresh rate is supported by your probably cool CRT monitor in decent resolution? 85Hz? 100? 120Hz? Even if it supports at least 1024x768 on mindblowing 140Hz you will still have just 70Hz using your cool shutterglases. And I'm not f*cking with my eyes because of some cool visuals - 85Hz minimum And today I'm considering LCDs as an only option for modern computer, again, first of all for non-flickering technology, and what a shame, shutterglasses won't work with LCDs... In the end I'll wait at least another 10 years for some realy good affordable home virtual reality device

SDX on 13/7/2005 at 14:26

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Perhaps this was the case why some 10 years ago peope concidered that a typical computer freak always wears some bulky glasses... and no way I'm living with this in 21st century
btw, I'm happy that your guide dog is doing fine, he must have a lot of work living with you... ;)

Shadowchaser426 on 13/7/2005 at 15:58

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I think those oled displays have response times in nano seconds rather than milliseconds compared to LCD screens, not sure how you compare this to crt monitors.

I have played using shutter glasses at 85hz (screen res) and it flickers a bit but you could put up with it, i normally run at 120hz@1024x768 res as this gives me the best picture.

After playing Deus ex with the 3d glasses you start to notice things that you would normally miss, like for example the bar stools in the underworld tavern (i spent a few mins just circling around them) they actually look like a real stool even though it does show up the older gfx quality of deus ex compared to modern stuff (i only have a ATI card in my real gaming rig and the 3d glasses rig only has a 5900 in it so it wont play deusex 2 to well)

I think when the OLED technology has matured, we will start to see far better desktop monitors and 3d visors, as they did say something about oleds having no real limit on resolution (but i doubt that) so maybe in a few years a 3200x2400 res display could be possible, with the mega high response time and stereo 3d we could have a real good VR setup.

ZylonBane on 15/7/2005 at 22:00

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Who cares about a somewhat low refresh rate? For a game like DX you're normally looking at darker, low-contrast environments anyway, which minimizes the flicker effect considerably.