TheGreatGodPan on 22/2/2005 at 22:37
I don't know when Gits happened, but both the System Shock games and Thief (the mechanical eye) featured people being technologically enhanced. As for the Matrix, Deus Ex is more along the lines of Bionic Man than the Superman/Christ-figure Neo became.
Ajare on 22/2/2005 at 23:05
Quote Posted by TheGreatGodPan
I don't know when Gits happened, but both the System Shock games and Thief (the mechanical eye) featured people being technologically enhanced.
1995, so inbetween System Shock and Thief I guess.
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I doubt ISA got thermoptic camo from GitS. Apart from it being in Predator, the idea of a suit that makes its wearer invisible isn't exactly hard to think of.
Yeah, but I meant the name. As far as I know, GitS was the first to use it. I think it highly unlikely that ISA made up the same name by chance, especially given the afore-mentioned similarities.
All I'm saying is that the world of Deus Ex is just one huge amalgam of (obvious) outside influences, pieced together in an unoriginal way. I don't care too much because the gameplay is so cool, but it just wouldn't be worth making as a film. I mean, sure the Matrix was like that too (the Warchowskis even admitted that GitS itself was a big influence), but they still managed to incorporate the ideas in a vaguely original way - something that can't be said for DX.
Tortus on 23/2/2005 at 03:17
I hate The Matrix. Bullet-time was impressive - the first time you saw it on a trailer. Everything else I'd seen before.
Oskar Cruo on 23/2/2005 at 07:56
Quote Posted by Slato Metakide
Taking on Deus Ex as a film is an extremely risky endeavour. This is mainly because one of the main things that has made Deus Ex a landmark in PC Gaming ingenuity is the amount of choices that the player can make to affect the path the game takes the player on. This obviously can't be done with a film (I know this didn't need to be mentioned - TTLG is full of
samrt people!) so what a film on this game would have to achieve is for it to take the brilliant plot of this game and turn it into heavily story-driven action-thriller IMO. I film on Deus Ex can work - if done properly.
Well maybe they could make a DVD version where you could choose between scenes every now and then. :D
Aerothorn on 27/2/2005 at 05:10
According to (
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365118/board/nest/6211147) this post on the IMDb message boards , Willem Defoe will be starring as (most likely) Bob Page.
I love Defoe but I just don't see him being Page, Page is all straight-man and Defoe is all character-actor. Bah, when I heard this thing was cancelled I was so happy, it sucks that they revived it. LET IT DIE!
godismygoldfish on 7/3/2005 at 03:20
The only way a DX movie could be good is if they deviated away from the story in the games, but at that point i wouldn't even bother with calling it DX or setting it in the same world, i'de rather just see a good cyberpunk movie without the Deus Ex name attached.
absis minas on 8/3/2005 at 19:47
Quote Posted by Ajare
They nicked the whole idea of merging with an AI from it.
what about Count Zero, by William Gibson? came out in the late/mid 80's.
- spoiler for Count Zero -
Herr Virek (a dying, tumor ridden lump, that is kept alive in some sort of vat), had aimed to merge with what is the Wintermute AI's core (which was up in space, in that Straylight thing). merging with it would have allowed him to, like...you know...be an immortal megalomaniac.
---------------------end spoiler-----------------------
even then, the idea of AI was around much earlier than the 1980's.
a side note - Ghost in the Shell is fucking wretched.
DaBeast on 8/3/2005 at 23:15
The overly philosophical dialogue does put alot of people off but its pretty common in anime. I thought it was fantastic.
Also, it was around before '95 or rather the comics were I think. But it is more likely that the inspiration came from the books or maybe a mix of both.
D'Juhn Keep on 8/3/2005 at 23:35
A cursory look on Google reveals nothing about Willem Defoe in DX. Also, it still says the film's cancelled on the main page.
absis minas on 9/3/2005 at 07:15
Quote Posted by GamesBeast666
The overly philosophical dialogue does put alot of people off but its pretty common in anime. I thought it was fantastic.
Also, it was around before '95 or rather the comics were I think. But it is more likely that the inspiration came from the books or maybe a mix of both.
hmm...yes, anime does seem to TRY at being philosophical, but i always find that it fails. miserably.
it's generally horribly convoluted with all sorts of crap about robots, the afterlife, aliens, the difference between humans and machines, and 36MMM cup tits.
the philosophical point of much anime is also usually moot.
Philip K. Dick and Jorge Louis Borges, i think, are better at the philosophical fiction thingy.
sorry if i'm being an ass. whenever discussion turns to Ghost in the Shell, i ALWAYS become a rabid sociopath.
