Deus Ex Eggs/References. - by Eberon
Cyborg on 16/5/2003 at 05:35
Yeah.. "You must have god clearance to know"
Child of Karras on 16/5/2003 at 11:28
From a Deus Ex FAQ at (
www.gamefaqs.com)
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Bible References
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Do not be scared! I am not religious. However, I did look up some stuff.
But, not being much into religion, it is possible I made some small
(or large) errors or misread stuff. So this is not to be taken as
ultimate truth. Still...
JC Denton: JC stands for Jesus Christ, maybe? Hence 'Deus Ex', 'God From'.
Paul Denton: Paul is one of the apostles, who preached the word of the
Lord and all that. In the game, he tells you about the NSF,
the conspiracies, and to use non-lethal methods.
Walton Simons: Simon was one of Jesus' brothers; in the game Simons has
nano-augs, just like you. But he's evil. And voiced by
Tom Hall.
J Manderly: Joseph, another biblical name... (the "father" of Jesus)
dormcat on 17/5/2003 at 03:31
More Bible references (I'm not religious either :cheeky:):
In Bible, Paul became Jesus' believer after the first martyr (sorry, forgot his name, and my book with his name is not with me :() was stoned to death. Anyone knows the first martyr's name?
In game, Paul reveals his true motives at 747, where Juan Lebedev would get killed, either by you, Anna, or follow-up UNATCO personnel.
Dragonclaw on 17/5/2003 at 11:49
Quote:
Originally posted by dormcat Anyone knows the first martyr's name?
Should be Stephanus. "Lord, don't hold this sin against them." (Acts 7)
:eek:
Whoa, what a guy!
Quote:
Originally posted by dormcat In Bible, Paul became Jesus' believer after the first martyr ... was stoned to death.
Technically correct, but as you write it, it's wrong. Stephanus was stoned, and Saul liked it. Then he went on a great march to get all the christians killed. (And he's rather successful with that) On one travel, however, he gets blinded, and hears Jesus voice asking why he'd persecute him. Then, after he gets healed from his blindness, he becomes the apostle Paul and the faithful preacher he is known as. (Acts 9 and following)
Interesting may be, that Paulbrings the word to the gentiles (non-jews). You could make a reference to Paul Denton bringing the conspiracy to the non-government people, but I think that's somewhat artificial and a really long shot.
dormcat on 17/5/2003 at 21:28
Thanks for the info, Dragonclaw! :idea: :thumb:
Dragonclaw on 17/5/2003 at 21:50
No prob :)
Joben on 19/5/2003 at 18:02
Quote:
Originally posted by Child of Karras From a Deus Ex FAQ at (www.gamefaqs.com)
--------------------
Bible References
--------------------
Do not be scared! I am not religious. However, I did look up some stuff.
But, not being much into religion, it is possible I made some small
(or large) errors or misread stuff. So this is not to be taken as
ultimate truth. Still...
JC Denton: JC stands for Jesus Christ, maybe? Hence 'Deus Ex', 'God From'.
Paul Denton: Paul is one of the apostles, who preached the word of the
Lord and all that. In the game, he tells you about the NSF,
the conspiracies, and to use non-lethal methods.
Walton Simons: Simon was one of Jesus' brothers; in the game Simons has
nano-augs, just like you. But he's evil. And voiced by
Tom Hall.
J Manderly: Joseph, another biblical name... (the "father" of Jesus) ehh the JC one sounds possible, however i bet Manderly is a coincidence and the other two dont realy make much sense...about Paul basicaly what Dragonclaw said, he just doesnt seem to fit the Apostle Pauls role of reformed persecutor...and he doesnt realy treat JC as a Christ like figure, even at the end.
Simons seems like a realy realy
big streach, while Jesus' brothers dont apear to have [all/entirely] belived in him they were not evil...as far as the story of Jesus' preaching and death goes they were basicaly non-entitys.
That he had some siblings is basicaly all the info we are given about them, creating our Messiah's greatest enemy out of this unpromising begining seems rather silly and forced.
I would actualy say that as far as the story of JC Denton goes he is more in the role of one who opposes the Gods, like Hurcules (SP), he is a powerful warrior and a force in the world, but the prospect of becoming a God himself hardly seems to even occur to him until the very end (particularly the Helios ending)
DocSkrilla on 20/5/2003 at 20:00
actually, my uncle is a Rosicrucian. but that's pretty much all he says about it.
i'll ask him about it, if you guys want. (i'm surprised nobody actually got that reference before)
rachel on 21/5/2003 at 08:08
The Rosy Cross one, you mean?
Ask him, yes... that would be interesting indeed =) I've always wanted to know more about them. :)
