Pyrian on 13/9/2016 at 03:22
Huh. Doesn't ring a bell. And I think I hit every apartment eventually; might've missed some, or just missed the casing. Was there anything else? There's kind of a lot of apartments with dead bodies, lol.
froghawk on 13/9/2016 at 04:49
Yes, did you turn on the wall panel to give power to the computer? It tells you to go somewhere in the sewers and gives you a door code. I haven't tried going there yet as I'm not sure exactly where to go (it just says 'poor area of town'... I'm assuming that means somewhere in Prezicka, but where?).
As far as Black goes, I think that may end abruptly due to who gives you the quest and her mid-credits reveal? Like she was just trying to waste your time and study you? It is odd though, I don't think there's a way to actually solve it.
heywood on 13/9/2016 at 16:43
The handgun casing is related to a POI involving a group of people who escaped Golem city. I think the dead guy is one of the escapees and the cops shot him. The other escapees are in the sewers being attacked by police bots, and you can save them if you destroy the bots quickly enough. If you do, you get a short conversation and a door code.
They intended for you to get the POI on your second trip to Prague, which would point to the apartment, and there you would be pointed to the sewers with a code that unlocks a door. When you find the door in the sewers and unlock it, you witness the bots shooting up civilians. In my case, I did it all in reverse, first finding the door in the sewers and hacking it, then finding the apartment, and finally getting the POI later in the game.
That kind of thing happened to me a lot in Mankind Divided. I found nearly all of the POI locations in Prague before I even knew what a POI was. I think I explored half of Prague before I even talked to the guy who was trading them for Neuropozyne. When I talked to him, he offered to trade information but didn't give the slightest clue what the information might be. So I figured there will probably be some quest later on that directs me to get information from him, and walked away.
Pyrian on 13/9/2016 at 17:56
Quote Posted by heywood
The handgun casing is related to a POI involving a group of people who escaped Golem city. I think the dead guy is one of the escapees and the cops shot him. The other escapees are in the sewers being attacked by police bots, and you can save them if you destroy the bots quickly enough. If you do, you get a short conversation and a door code.
Oh, yeah, I rescued them about midway. Never got the PoI, AFAIK.
Quote Posted by heywood
I think I explored half of Prague before I even talked to the guy who was trading them for Neuropozyne. When I talked to him, he offered to trade information but didn't give the slightest clue what the information might be.
I ran into him right away - he moves around a lot, but starts off just outside the main entrance to Adam's apartment complex. I didn't have any Neuropozyne at that point anyway, but trading a 1,000 credit item for unspecified information never made any sense to me.
Seems like maybe they could do the pre-exploration thing a bit better. I know some items have the traditional "not there until you're told to look for them" and there are several keycard doors that can only be entered with the right keycard (although some can be gotten around other ways).
driver on 13/9/2016 at 22:11
Quote Posted by Pyrian
Speaking of poorly fleshed out quests, what's up with
Vincent Black/Czarnobog? That quest just kind of ended for me when
I found his body, despite a number of interesting clues scattered about.
Did you find
the pocket secretary under his body? It answers a few questions but it's not the most satisfying conclusion.
Pyrian on 13/9/2016 at 23:13
Yeah. It's pretty clear who killed him, who had him killed, and more-or-less why and how (although I'm not entirely clear on what he was doing as "Czarnobog"), but the quest ends with "I may never really know" and with that stiletto heel quest object which clearly seems to be a quest hook.
Did anybody press Vlaska about him? He doesn't really do anything but admit to the killing (which we already know), but I don't know if it changes the quest continuance? (I reset and "saved" Olivie - although for what fate, who knows, given these guys' primary business.)
Jason Moyer on 14/9/2016 at 07:03
Quote Posted by Pyrian
That's just the fact
that he doesn't need it (and the direct consequences thereof), it's not
why he doesn't need it, or what that has to do with his past. I'm talking about the
White Helix lab stuff.
EDIT: Ninja'd!
Maybe they didn't replicate Jensen's Sarif augs. He died, they recovered the body, then used the augs in the clone. Interestingly, the Harvester subplot demonstrates that they have some sort of technology that can replicate the memories of dead people into a new host, which supports the clone theory.I'm starting to think that the racism stuff is a red herring (in regards to the title of the game) and that the real story is
the Illuminati testing their cloning and/or reconstruction tech. I mean, there's the Harvester stuff, there's the conversation mid-credits with the "psychiatrist" where she mentions that his memories are intact (wtf?), and there's the conversation between Adam and Sarif where Adam mentions that no one recognized him when he was being brought back to health and Sarif points out that they should have because all of his augs can be traced back to him via the serial numbers. Oh, and the two faces that show when the menu loads.
froghawk on 14/9/2016 at 07:14
Not to mention the Helle quest - You differ from my memory of you or something
froghawk on 14/9/2016 at 19:26
Anyone braved Breach mode? The menu flat out doesn't work for me - I can't push any buttons. So it's the free extra mode that you probably have to pay for and probably can't play anyway haha
Jason Moyer on 14/9/2016 at 23:29
I did the tutorial and a bit after, it's basically like the challenge maps in Dishonored or BioShock 2/Infinite. There's probably some possiblity for pay2win action, but it doesn't seem mandatory by any means.