Destiny 2 - MMOFPS-ARPG - PC/PS4/XB1 - Oct 24th/Sept 6th. - by EvaUnit02
N'Al on 6/9/2017 at 16:59
[video=youtube;vII1AGyantY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=176&v=vII1AGyantY[/video]
Malf on 23/10/2017 at 11:38
While I've been having minor hype-induced urges to buy this, even after playing the mediocre beta, I watched most of this over the weekend which successfully dissuaded me from wasting the cash:
[video=youtube;Dqyco2NYBOs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqyco2NYBOs&t=1863s[/video]
And of course, good ol' Jim Sterling is typically vitriolic in this one, which is more a criticism of microtransactions, loot crates and season passes, but still heavily critical of Destiny 2:
[video=youtube;pHSso2vufPM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHSso2vufPM[/video]
On top of this, I am enjoying The Division, the closest analogue of Destiny 2 I've got at the moment, and it offers enough variety for occasional dips in, while the "high end" play is obscure and complicated enough to prevent engaging me and making me spend every waking hour playing it. Why spend money buying Destiny 2, when I already have a game that does a lot of the things it does, but better?
Not played the game co-op, but the Underground content seems like it could be a right laugh with friends, as scenarios are highly configurable and procedural, while not usually taking more than 20-30 minutes to complete.
Renault on 23/10/2017 at 21:41
I rented Destiny 2 from a Redbox for a couple of days to see what all the hype was about. Played it for about an hour - utterly boring. Just completely linear and a straight forward shooter, with a completely cliched setting. Nothing at all to distinguish it from anything else out there. I'm surprised derivative games like this still get such glowing reviews. Haven't we seen this kind of things a million times already? Sorry, there's way better games to waste your time on.
Tony_Tarantula on 23/10/2017 at 23:29
Well, all these reviews help make the decision easy.
For why they're popular I got no idea. The only reason I can think of is that a lot of people were emotionally invested in Destiny being good because it's "OMG BUNGIE!!!", and a lot of them needed Destiny 2 to be good in order to avoid having to deal with the dissonance that goes along with realizing that thing you like actually sucks.
Doesn't account for all of the fans and reviews but that's all I got.
Thirith on 25/10/2017 at 09:40
I've already given an answer for myself, but obviously that didn't register, so I'll try again.
I played the first Destiny on PS4, about one or two years after it was released, which means I got to play it with the DLC that apparently vastly improved the original game. Yes, Destiny is shallow, yes, it's a skinner box, but compared to similar games I liked it better. Take Borderlands 2: Destiny is more generically sci-fi and it's more po-faced, but the moment-to-moment gameplay (on console, with a controller) felt much, much better to me than that of Borderlands, and I like the aesthetics much more. Take Diablo 3: at least in coop mode and on a first playthrough, i.e. before Adventure Mode or whatever other modes the game offers, Diablo 3 was so easy, it felt like it played itself, while Destiny had challenging, fun missions that, in spite of the relatively shallow gameplay, still were designed to feel surprisingly varied.
I never got hooked on Destiny, but for about a year I played it fairly regularly several times a week, half an hour before going to bed, and for that it was perfect. Coop with randoms was both easy and never toxic in my experience. The game felt good playing it, I enjoyed its aesthetics, and while the story was mediocre at best and often incoherent, its delivery (and most of the voice acting, once they'd replaced Dinklage's performance) still made it quite enjoyable. All in all, I got dozens of hours of enjoyment out of the game, without ever getting stuck in the kind of mechanical loop that keeps you playing but leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
scumble on 25/10/2017 at 13:20
What I've picked up about Destiny myself was from the Daft Souls podcast while they were still doing that regularly. The positive reaction there was down to it being a relatively chilled experience to just drop into and escape. Clearly this doesn't work for everyone, but to me it sounds like it must be pleasant enough, and Thirith is more or less confirming that.
I found the Jimquisition video interesting - my usual response to season passes and so forth is just to wait for a game of the year edition or something like that. I also find microtransactions irritating when on top of something you've already bought. I think Blizzard have avoided this with Overwatch in that you haven't been forced to pay for the upcoming content, it has come along with updates as a matter of course. You can pay for loot boxes but it doesn't have anything gameplay relevant.
Sounds like Destiny 2's use of microtransaction is a bit silly, yet it's very hard to avoid the gradual creep of buying a little bit of extra whatever as it's often a few quid here and there. I've been guilty of it, partly due to my children wanting stuff for Warframe, which isn't a bad Destiny alternative, but also it's free to play initially. The same goes for MOBAs like League of Legends or Heroes of the Storm. It's probably down to human psychology that you'll spend way more in little charges over a few months than your £39.99 unless you track everything on a spreadsheet.
Bit of a tangent to the subject of the thread, but it's unfortunately the way things are in the world that if there's a way to make more money a lot of people are just going to go for it, regardless of how sneaky the method is, or just using human psychology.
Tony_Tarantula on 26/10/2017 at 17:51
Something like warframe I don't have a problem with though. It's a perfectly valid and fair loss leader strategy where you provide the basic system up front, and it's a perfectly honest transaction for people to pay for additional designed content in the same way that old school expansion packs where you'd get a couple floppies with a new campaign were perfectly legitimate.
I find microtransactions for loot to be far more shady....although I should add that I'm not particularly tempted for loot boxes, because I realize that $3 buys me a new shade of paint for my airbrush and $10-$15 buys me a new Warmachine or Dropzone Commander mini.
EvaUnit02 on 7/12/2017 at 05:00
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https://gamerant.com/destiny-2-pc-launch-825/) Destiny 2 PC Launch was ‘Very Successful', According to Report
That's cool.
You had better pony up for that season pass (or separately sold expansion) if you're planning to keep playing. The first game did exactly this so it was expected, doesn't mean that it's right.
* The requirement for guided games for raid are now 310. Gotta own the expansion.
* Heroic Strike playlist requires expac.
* Many of the public events that I've played call for a power level of at least 300, better party up otherwise you'll get stomped trying to solo them; else better get the expac and grind your way up to the new 335 power cap if you're a solo guy.
Malf on 7/12/2017 at 08:53
Yet you still bought it in the first place...
EvaUnit02 on 7/12/2017 at 17:58
1. I was informing this community of this current event.
2. ...and? I knew what I was getting into, hence why I bought the Digital Deluxe Edition with expansion pass bundled on day 1. It's a MMO, at this point it should go without saying that you have to have all of the expansions if wanna keep up with the Joneses.
I've put dozens of hours into the game and had a lot of fun. I joined a clan and met cool people who I communicate with regularly on Discord. I've gotten my money's worth from the game.