PigLick on 13/5/2010 at 01:37
yeh nice production, though I am not sure I like the song as much as the other 2 posted earlier, a little bit 'twee', more grunt needed. Jammy bit at the end is nice.
Aja on 13/5/2010 at 02:28
twee is good, it's what makes the girls and hipsters come to your shows ;)
Big Dig isn't my favourite song either, but the added production (the mellotrons and field recordings and synths etc) is what we wanted to do with the first two tracks, but didn't have time. Now I think we'll probably go back and embellish them (the details might be seen as frivolous, but for me, at least, they make albums worth listening to).
PigLick on 14/5/2010 at 04:56
actually the 'field recording' is probably the first thing I would drop, I mean its not the 60's anymore dude. Totally love the glassy guitar tone in the jam section in the last minute though.
Aja on 14/5/2010 at 05:22
It's not a 60's thing, it's an ambient music thing (at least for us). Either way, I appreciate the criticism but we all love field recordings and if anything we're going to add more. They give texture and a sense of space that's hard to get when you can't record in more interesting places. And they make the music more personal. And I just love them so much.
anyway
The tone at the end is a Strat into a Twin Reverb with an English Muffin pedal. The next song we're working on should have a bit more meat to it; won't even need the bird-sounds or clinking glasses. ;)
PigLick on 14/5/2010 at 07:47
ah yes doesnt get much more classic than a strat and twin reverb, damn those things are heavy though. What I meant with the 60's comment is, well, the beatles and shit used those kind of 'ambient' sounds, cos it was new and the technology could all of a sudden allow it. Take a step back from your own music and think about the people who are listening to it, it does come across as a little pretentious, and I dont think it adds anything at all to the songs effect.
However, thats just my opinion, I am truly impressed by the stuff your band is putting out:thumb:
Stitch on 14/5/2010 at 16:05
A little goes a long way when it comes to field recordings.
Aja on 14/5/2010 at 18:01
I honestly don't see how our usage of them could be construed as pretension (at least no more so than anything else we've done). I mean maybe if we'd thrown in samples of a church sermon or protest rally or heartbeat or something... but it's just some machine noises at the very beginning (actually it's a rollercoaster, but it gives off this train station kinda vibe that suits the song) and then later a friend talking about beer factory workers. The organ-grinding sound is something we just played, and then altered to sound integrated with the recording. Plus, I like the effect of the song coming into focus once as the recording fades out. And I like that buzzer at the start; it sets the track in motion.
Matthew on 14/5/2010 at 20:06
Spoken like a true hipster mang :D
Muzman on 14/5/2010 at 20:58
I guess if you get feeds off pitchfork or wherever the whole sixties thing might be a little old by now, but I don't mind it. As an occasional listener of Stereolab and Broadcast over the years, the trend becoming more straight revival, as it is here, than modern reworking is fine with me. Plus I always liked field recording as a bit of an ambient stunt when Underworld would do it. I've encountered it as a bit of a cheap earthiness injection in some overproduced pop, but I don't get that vibe from this stuff here.
Anyway, this thread need less overproductive musos and more solo legal riffing. Rockin' the Hague \m/
