Ziemanskye on 4/8/2005 at 17:16

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The archway right at the beginning is part of why we need to have the Blockloading turned on, sadly, since it requires the ibt file's versions of the staticmeshes (with the physics twiddled correctly). It probably isn't showing up in the right texture either since I reskinned it for the level.

It's also part of why it'll work without using blockloading - it'll ignore the ibt file completely in favour of whatever versions of the smeshes/textures.... you have on your own system. Just doesn't answer why the custom scripts still work - did you dl them seperately, cause I didn't include them in the zip?

Otherwise, well you should only need to move the skeletal anims and skeletal meshes to make it go, but that's why I keep refering to this as a timing error - each person needs slightly different things copied (if you use the t3MainOptVersion.exe it'll tell you what it's missing in the t3main.log). When testing Rivervale - my first, but massive and now scrapped mission - on a friends computer I ended up having to send him about 150-200Mb of extra stuff because the ibt wasn't loading it.

I'm glad you got it to work. Just a bit of a shame you've done it with a large-file transfer work around I could have told people would almost work right. Though if anyone cares, this is exactly why I was arguing in favour of ibt files back when the gmp/ibt debate was rolling. It should mean things are set up right to actually work for everyone else how they do for me.

Ziemanskye on 4/8/2005 at 18:09

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Well, the first custom script I remember in the level is the one that teleports you inside when you click the gylph on the front door - that needed a new script because there isn't a generic teleport to other part of level kind of action (sadly, might make moving around easier).

The ibt file is a baked version of the gmp file, that includes the used parts of the gamesys (hence the modified assasins in Krellick's working, I think), the triggerscripts, and the staticmeshes and skeletal meshes, skeletal anims and so on that the map uses. I think the gmp file is needed to tell the game it's there, and maybe contains the FleshBSP where the ibt doesn't, I'm not sure, but it's needed either way. The ibt contains all of the resources (though I've had erratic reports of the books/quotes being in it, since people keep saying they are getting "Cannot find loadingquote" type erros when the first ibt I baked had the correct loading quote without passing anything apart from the gmp and ibt to the other computer).

That's the idea anyway, I'm not a programmer, and while I think Shockeye &/ Shadowspawn are working on it, I'm not sure.

However, with blockloading turned off, the game uses the gmp file only, and loads all of the resources from disk (and so should need the editor, or at least all the CONTENT files) to guarantee it runs.
Again, that's the idea. I don't know if it even checks for the existance of an ibt when it's turned off, so it might kind of reverse the process - loading anything it can from the resource paths, but using things in the ibt if it can't find them, which would explain why custom scripts could work.

Ziemanskye on 4/8/2005 at 18:34

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the quotes are seperate from the ibt file anyway in the zips, since I've included the Books/String_tags/Quotes.sch file.

But if you can get this to go (or just come up with any more information on why it's not), it'll help. Though in all fairness, it would probably be better if more people finished and released missions so that we all had more to test with - that would make getting this all to work easier.

Ziemanskye on 7/8/2005 at 15:59

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Okay, now I feel dumb.

I knew about the DynamicallyLoaded folder thing, and completely forgot it.

:rolleyes: :eek: :o

Ziemanskye on 7/8/2005 at 16:42

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If it's just that one, I have no idea. Last time I had to jump through these hoops it needed all the skeletal meshes and stuff too.

Maybe it just doesn't like the fact I've added the mesh as a smesh, rather than a Loot Actor.

Is anything else missing? [I know textures and scripts are non-fatal in this kind of case, whereas smeshs and skele's are] Possibly you aren't the person to ask, since you might not know what it's meant to look like, but it should be obvious enough, I suppose, given the default texture is that ugly pink thing.