CCCToad on 28/8/2009 at 21:06
Quote Posted by The Phantom
I'm shocked by what I read in this thread.
People who think government influence is a bad thing? Our leaders need to be there for their citizens! They can't just stand on the sideline, only taking care of national security, and let the free market handle it.
Because "being there for the citizens" doesn't always equate to a good result.
For example, most of us agree that the state should provide a public education service for the citizens. In the US, this public education is completely worthless, with one of the worst performing school systems in the world. In Germany, the government has decided that this means you can not homeschool your kids. If you do, you can be put in jail.
SubJeff on 28/8/2009 at 21:33
Public healthcare in the US gets a very poor rating too.
Why is this?
Do you think it could be because all the money is going elsewhere whereas in countries where healthcare and education are much more heavily government funded these services get enough money?
No, no that can't be it.
Thief13x on 28/8/2009 at 22:33
now that just hurts
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Do you think it could be because all the money is going elsewhere whereas in countries where healthcare and education are much more heavily government funded these services get enough money?
hahahaha! yeah that must be it. I guess the DMV doesn't have enough money either right? Couldn't be all the red tape and lack of proper oversight could it? or the federal government's complete inability to follow even the most basic and common sense business practices? no of course not..
Rug Burn Junky on 28/8/2009 at 23:43
Quote Posted by Thief13x
I guess the DMV doesn't have enough money either right?
And just what exactly is the DMV unable to accomplish that it should be doing better?
I mean christ, your whole list of shit that "OMG the federal government fails at everything" is a god damn punch line. Yes, the post office works. Yes, the DMV works (psst, it's also not a federal office, you dumb fuck). Yes, Medicare works. Yes, Social Security works. Yes, the stimulus is working.
Hell, the fact that you're arguing against government intervention because you have tainted water? Christ, could you get any stupider? You're basically saying that because the federal government isn't strong enough to regulate private entities from dumping shit in your water, we should make the federal government weaker,
as though this will lead to less shit in your water. Do you even come close to recognizing how ass fucking backwards this is? What's your solution, leave it unregulated?
Fuck, at least the radioactive waste in your water supply explains what happened to you in the womb.
You saying that the government failed at these things as though that proves your point Q.E.D. just shows yet again that you're intellectually lazy, and have absolutely no rigor to your argument. It is a tired canard, and you're treating it as though it were gospel. It is ignorance exemplified.
It's also a pretty good example that no matter the flaws of the federal government, it's never failed nearly as badly as your professors did at educating you. You ought to look into a refund into that $100k.
Thief13x on 29/8/2009 at 01:06
Quote:
don't argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference
Quoted for truth
you're wrong on all your points...I'm not going to argue them, read what I posted, do a little research, you're simply wrong.
Rug Burn Junky on 29/8/2009 at 01:39
You're not going to argue them because you can't. "Hurr Hurr, the post office and DMV sucks" isn't exactly a point that can be supported, never mind the fact that you're too simpleminded to discuss shit like the stimulus, even if I included pretty pictures.
Though, I should thank you for the advice you quoted. Rest assured, the "idiot" isn't who you think it is.
Thief13x on 29/8/2009 at 01:53
haha, ya know RBJ you're good to laugh at, but that's about it. It doesn't matter what you think. You sound like the typical idiot who works on the NYSE and has told us to invest in your bullshit since November 08', it's funny that you think the average American is that dumb but the numbers tell us something different.
Rest assured a government option will never pass, that's all that really matters in the end, it doesn't matter what you think because the truth is the government can't even come close to comparing to the level of service private industry can provide in any market. Any attempt to prove otherwise is politics as usual in Washington, and is what got us into this mess in the first place.
Next please?
