Starrfall on 23/4/2009 at 14:18
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Unfortunately climbing the corporate ladder is less reliant on education and more reliant on figurative (and sometimes literal!) dicksucking.
Science has shown that there is a Mr. Show clip for (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcaVSTsYyOI) everything.
Taffer36 on 25/4/2009 at 04:25
Quote Posted by ilweran
How often does that actually happen though? What I learnt from school is that if you stand out in any way - listen to different music, dress differently, have an actual interest in learning, want to have an intelligent conversation - your peers will hate you and make your life hell.
Is my high school a special case or something?
I wouldn't consider myself popular or anything, but I've found about ten to fifteen good friends and countless other acquaintenses. I'm not loud but I get along with those around me well enough. And I haven't seen outright bullying since the third grade. Sure, there's the occasional douche but that's life.
Honestly I really want to say that if you can't at least find a few friends in a school of a thousand or if you can't get along with people, even on a superficial level, then you might not be trying hard enough. BUT like I said I haven't really seen any bullying (unless I'm not looking hard enough) so I can't really judge people who were in schools where it may have been a serious problem.
fett on 25/4/2009 at 13:59
I was never bullied either, and didn't see it past 5-6th grade. I remember a friend of mine who was autistic getting a hard time every once in a while. I think unless you're the kid being bullied you may not recognize it as much (:confused:). In high school, it seems like the one being the bully ends up looking like the douche, so it's not cool to be that guy...
Thor on 25/4/2009 at 15:24
Hmm, i remember watching a documentary film on tv few years ago.
Well, it's just sad. They couldn't deal with the fact, that life is unfair.
Jason Moyer on 25/4/2009 at 16:04
Quote Posted by Taffer36
Is my high school a special case or something?
Doubt it. I went to a relatively small (175-ish class size) high school in an ultra-conservative farm area, constantly dyed my hair blue/pink/black/whatever, wore fishnets and combat boots at a time when it wasn't particularly cool to do so, and ended up getting elected class president after running a ridiculously absurdist campaign with homo-erotic posters hanging around the school. There's a picture of me in the school yearbook striking a ridiculous napoleon pose with my hair in pigtails. I wouldn't say I was "QB of the football team" popular but everyone knew me and knew that despite being a typical teenage freak I was intelligent and a nice guy.
I suspect from the little I see of teen culture nowadays (from a 30-something perspective) that there's been some sort of crazy kneejerk reaction to non-conformity and subculture-association, probably in large part caused by adults' lame ass reaction to shit like the Columbine incident - a bunch of dirtbags with shitty parents shoot up a school, so obviously anyone who is different has a problem! I think children of any age are naturally inclined to be accepting of people who are different than they are, moreso than adults are. I suspect that the problems with bullying and ostracization that happen among teens is something that's taught by parents, teachers, conservative administrators (I had an ex-priest as principal in a public school - he actually pulled me aside one day in 9th or 10th grade to explain to me that I should know that being gay is unacceptable - no, seriously), and public leaders. I really think that kids are learning this shit from the increasing legion of adults who have their heads shoved up their asses about most social issues rather than it being an intrinsic part of the childhood/teen experience.
Kolya on 25/4/2009 at 17:51
Sounds like a great time you had there. Also fishnets and combat boots? Pics plz.
gunsmoke on 26/4/2009 at 01:30
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
wore fishnets and combat boots at a time when it wasn't particularly cool to do so,.
OK, and when has it EVER been "cool" to do so?
God your post explains so much...
Kolya on 26/4/2009 at 07:53
...eg that you were an over-conforming kid who compensates this now through a childish western tough guy affinity. ;) Kitchen-psychology never fails!
Fishnets sounds like early 80s but Jason was too young then, heavy boots were considered tres chic in the early 90s though and that's most likely when he wore them. The lil punk.
Jason Moyer on 26/4/2009 at 11:34
Yeah, it was basically a 90's thing. I stopped doing that shit around the time I was in college and became more of a corduroys/t-shirt guy until I started doing physical labor a few years ago and sold my soul to denim. Eventually I'm going to let the hair grow out and do odd things to it again but basically I manage about 3 months before it starts to irritate me and I shave it off. Being an old fat guy makes it a lot more convenient to just not give a shit about being a walking fashion boutique anyway.
But yeah, my point is more that kids doing stupid shit has less to do with the kids involved and more to do with adults basically being self-absorbed assholes.
Scots Taffer on 26/4/2009 at 11:59
I think I would have liked the fishnets and leather boots Jason Moyer rather than the doldrums denim Moyer of today.
