Climate Change could attack within 45 minutes. - by jay pettitt
jay pettitt on 2/11/2006 at 01:57
Quote Posted by TheGreatGodPan
I think the "Copenhagen Conscensus" decided a while back it would be much easier to assist people in areas adversely affected by climate change than to prevent it from happening.
Oh come now, there's about as much chance of us finding the will to help the poor drowning people in Timbuctoo and New-Orleans as there is saving the planet.
I think the gist of the Stern report is that, contrary to Lomborg's earlier sugestions, it will likely be much much much much much (5 muchs, no less) more costly to do a patch up job after the event than address the problem before it all goes pear shaped.
aguywhoplaysthief on 2/11/2006 at 07:19
I don't know about you guys, but I'm moving to Greenland now that it will be nice and green again.
Turtle on 2/11/2006 at 15:43
And I'm moving to Iceland before this martini gets warm.
Jakeyboy on 3/11/2006 at 19:12
I'm pretty sure if Britain gave up all forms of greenhouse gas emissions it would have little effect on slowing down global warming. Of course, it would be a great example to show the world.
China and India are largely seeking the richer lives we've been enjoying, thus incresing their emissions. Theres a lot more of them than there are of us. It's a shame, because its not exactly fair for us to tell them not to enjoy that lifestyle on the grounds we already did and now its affecting the earth is NOT ALOUD NOW STOPP.
In addition, obviously the USA is a big one, they have a huge average global footprint, roughly twice the average briton, if I remember correctly. And again, theres alot of them.
Looks like its gonna be Global Warming 1 - 0 Planet Earth.
Shotgun venus (becus it rimes with peenus!)
edit: (meant to add)
There is of course, evidence that global warming is not really happening because of us. e.g. The earth had about 10 times the amount of carbon dioxide it does now in the atmosphere during the last ice age (again, my memory, correct if wrong) and that all suddenly went away. Somehow. So it could be a natural thingy, or something.
R Soul on 3/11/2006 at 23:55
Quote Posted by Jakeyboy
in the atmosphere during the last ice age (again, my memory, correct if wrong)
I can't remember that far back either
Martin Karne on 4/11/2006 at 06:35
I'm suffering climate change attacks since mid-2001.
Too hot in the second floor, moved all electronics to the first floor.
Unless of course you love failing electronics by over heating, make it stop!
:mad:
jermi on 4/11/2006 at 18:05
One might even argue that lack of proper education will ultimately cause mankind to destroy itself and 90% of all other life on the planet. (
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/independent_reviews/stern_review_economics_climate_change/stern_review_report.cfm) The Stern Report is a good paper, since it speaks the only language governments and businesses understand. ("Money.") It also recognizes that without forceful government guidance, the "invisible hand" is pushing us over the edge.
Quote Posted by "The Stern Report"
The climate is a public good: those who fail to pay for it cannot be excluded from enjoying its benefits and one person's enjoyment of the climate does not diminish the capacity of others to enjoy it too. Markets do not automatically provide the right type and quantity of public goods, because in the absence of public policy there are limited or no returns to private investors for doing so: in this case, markets for relevant goods and services (energy, land use, innovation, etc) do not reflect the consequences of different consumption and investment choices for the climate. Thus, climate change is an example of market failure involving externalities and public goods. Given the magnitude and nature of the effects[,] it has profound implications for economic growth and development. All in all, it must be regarded as market failure on the greatest scale the world has seen.
The report outlines what must be done and states that it can be done. Perhaps it can be done, but in my opinion, it won't be done. In the biggest greenhouse gas emitter in the world, USA, 47% of the population is "only a little" or "not at all" concerned about climate change.
An even better read on a related issue: (
http://www.biodiv.org/gbo2/default.shtml) UNEP Global Biodiversity Outlook 2. "[...] a consistent decline in average species abundance of about 40% between 1970 and 2000[.]" Extrapolate that.
Quote Posted by "Biodiversity Outlook 2"
In effect, we are currently responsible for the sixth major extinction event in the history of the Earth, and the greatest since the dinosaurs disappeared, 65 million years ago.
